Shot down on a mission over Vietnam
Colonel Carl Frederick Karst
21ST TAC AIR SPT SQDN, 504TH TAC AIR SPT GROUP, 7TH AF
United States Air Force
ON THE WALL: Panel W39 Line 74
PERSONAL DATA:
Home of Record Galatia, KS
Date of birth: 10/27/1930
This page Copyright© 1997-2013 www.VirtualWall.org
MILITARY DATA:
Service: United States Air Force
Grade at loss: O4
Rank: Colonel
Note: Promoted while in MIA status
ID No: 511324108
MOS: 1435F: Air Operations Officer
Length Service: **
Unit: 21ST TAC AIR SPT SQDN, 504TH TAC AIR SPT GROUP, 7TH AF
CASUALTY DATA:
Start Tour: 01/23/1968
Incident Date: 11/16/1968
Casualty Date: 02/08/1974
Age at Loss: 43 (based on date declared dead)
Location: Pleiku Province, South Vietnam
Remains: 1974 status: Body Not Recovered. Found later.
Repatriated: 06/21/1989 (Returned to US soil)
Identified: 08/06/1993
Casualty Type: Hostile, died while missing
Casualty Reason: Fixed Wing - Pilot
Casualty Detail: Air loss or crash over land
URL: www.VirtualWall.org/dk/KarstCF01a.htm
Data accessed: 6/2/2013
SYNOPSIS: On November 16, 1968, (then) Major Carl F. Karst, pilot, and Captain Nguyen X. Quy, VNAF observer, departed Pleiku in an O1F on a visual reconnais- sance mission over South Vietnam. At 1640 hours (4:40 p.m.), shortly after takeoff, Karst reported that his position was two nautical miles east of Plei- ku, and that he was proceeding with his mission. When subsequent attempts to raise Karst by radio failed, a search began. The search continued for three days without success. Karst was classified Missing in Action.
A few months later, a Vietnamese informer reported information given him by a NVA/VC propaganda team that Karst's aircraft was shot down by small arms fire and the Vietnamese observer was killed. The informer stated that Karst evaded to the south, but was captured and executed in a village in northern Phu Bon Province. The informant did not witness any of these events. The report was considered inaccurate because the a NVA/VC team was known for coloring stories to impress the local population, and because Karst was very knowledgeable of the location of Viet Cong and North Vietnamese units in the area. Those who knew Karst agreed that he would not have evaded to the south, but rather to the west where he knew he might reach friendly forces and safety.
In December 1983, a refugee turned over two bone fragments and a rubbing of a metal ID tag bearing Karst's name to U.S. officials in Malaysia. He stated that he had been given the remains and rubbing by a Buddhist monk in 1981. The refugee was told that the remains were among 7 American remains recovered at an unspecified location in the Central Highlands.
By 1984, U.S. officials had received a series of reports from eight separate sources reported information concerning the alleged remains and dog tags of Karst. Four provided information solely on Karst, while the other four sources related Karst's name to other Army personnel who had returned from Vietnam at the end of their tours.
From a contemporary news report:
Sunday, October 3, 1993
Twenty-five years after he disappeared in a plane crash in South Vietnam, Air Force Colonel Carl Karst was buried at Arlington National Cemetery.
Vietnamese officials turned over Col. Karst's remains in 1989, but they were not identified until last month by the Army's Central Identification Laboratory in Hawaii.
Colonel Karst was 38 when he was shot down while flying a Cessna O-1 "Bird Dog" reconnaissance plane on a mission November 16, 1968.
He was buried Friday with full honors and an Air Force flyover. He is survived by his wife, two sons and a daughter.
October 2, 1993
Arlington, Virginia -- With great dignity and poignancy, the nation paid its last respects Friday to Colonel Carl Karst, a moment delayed and denied for 25 years.
Karst, an Air Force colonel and a native of Barton County, Kansas, died in a plane crash in Vietnam in 1968. But two decades passed until his remains were returned to this country, were positively identified, and a burial was arranged.
On a golden autumn morning Friday at Arlington National Cemetery, the moment for that last salute finally arrived. Karst's wife and their three children now adults with children of their own watched as Karst's flag-draped casket was solemnly carried by horse-drawn caisson to be buried on American soil. Four US Air Force F-16 jets roared overhead in the Missing Man formation.
"Everyone, I think, was moved by the military ceremony, the flyover, the band; all of it together was just such a solemn and dignified way of bringing closure to a time that has been full of all kinds of emotions," said Ruth Nelson, Karst's widow who has since remarried.
Accompanying Karst's immediate family were relatives from throughout Kansas. Family friends. Old Air Force buddies. Newer friends from MIA groups. And an old neighbor from long ago, Bob Dole from nearby Russell, now a U.S. Senator. If the burial resurrected some pain, the greater feelings seemed to be those of gratitude. Finality. And peace.
"I know every family member feels very good about it," Dole said after the grave-side service.
To honor its fallen comrade, the Air Force proffered the special majesty and sounds of a full military burial at Arlington National Cemetery. The clip-clop of hooves from the team of horses. The hollow cadence of drums. The mournful strains of the Air Force Hymn. The crack of a 21-gun salute. The lonely call of "Taps." And then, silence, as the American flag was removed from the casket, folded crisply into a triangle and presented to the family. Military funerals have not greatly changed in the past 25 years, but feelings about Vietnam have. When Karst died 25 years ago, this country was bitterly divided about the costs and value of that war. And if some division remains, there is little dispute about the honor due the men and women who served their country in Vietnam, and for those who did not return.
"Regardless of the validity of the Vietnam War and we knew there was controversy the men who served in the war did so with honor and dedication," Nelson said. Karst's dedication is reflected in his military honors, including the Distinguished Flying Cross, the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart. He was a 14-year Air Force veteran when his reconnaissance plane was shot down in 1968. He was officially listed as missing in action until 1974, when military authorities changed his legal status to killed in action. His body was returned by Vietnam in 1989, and a positive identification made this year.
February 21, 1974 - Russell Record - Obituary
Plan Memorial Service for Col. Carl F. Karst
A memorial service will be conducted at 2 p.m. Monday, March 4, at St. John Lutheran Church in Russell for Col. Carl F. Karst, who was recently declared killed in action in South Vietnam. He had been listed as missing in action since Nov. 15, 1968.
Col. Karst was born Oct. 27, 1930 at Galatia, the son of Mr. and Mrs. Ben Karst. He was graduated from Hoisington High School and Kansas State University, Manhattan, receiving his Reserve Officers Training Corps commission and entering the Air Force in May 1954. At KSU he was a member of Beta Sigma Psi fraternity and the Student Council.
He was baptized in God's family as an infant at Immanuel Lutheran Church of Milberger and confirmed his faith as a youth in the same church. He proclaimed Jesus as Lord throughout his life and served Him with humility and joy in his work, his family, and his church.
Col. Karst was stationed at Marana Air Field, Tucson, Arizona, took flight training at San Angelo, Tex., and from there was assigned to Carawell Air Force Base, Ft. Worth, Tex., as a crew member of a B-36 (Strategic Air Comman). He spent eight years at Altus AFB, Okla., where he was aircraft commander of a B-52. He was graduated from Air Command and Staff College at Maxwell AFB in 1967, and received F-4 training at Victorville, Calif. at George AFB.
In January 1968, he left for southeast Asia where he became deputy commander of II Direct Air Support Center at Plieku, South Vietnam. On November 16, 1968, he was flying an O-1F reconnaissance, and failed to return.
In addition to his widow, Ruth Langholz Karst, whom he married in Russell in June 1954, he is survived by three children, Cathy 18, Tom 14, and Douglas 10, all of Manhattan where Mrs. Karst has made her home since 1971; his parents of the home at Galatia; two brothers, Arthur Karst, Galatia, and Leon Karst, Rush Center; and two sisters, Mrs. August Wilhelm, Ellinwood, and Mrs. Paul E. Dumler, Russell.
A memorial fund in his name has been established with the High Flight Foundation to maintain the facility in Colorado used for retreats for the families of men missing in action and prisoners of war. Contributions may be made through the Home State Bank of Russell.
Colonel Carl Frederick Karst
21ST TAC AIR SPT SQDN, 504TH TAC AIR SPT GROUP, 7TH AF
United States Air Force
ON THE WALL: Panel W39 Line 74
PERSONAL DATA:
Home of Record Galatia, KS
Date of birth: 10/27/1930
This page Copyright© 1997-2013 www.VirtualWall.org
MILITARY DATA:
Service: United States Air Force
Grade at loss: O4
Rank: Colonel
Note: Promoted while in MIA status
ID No: 511324108
MOS: 1435F: Air Operations Officer
Length Service: **
Unit: 21ST TAC AIR SPT SQDN, 504TH TAC AIR SPT GROUP, 7TH AF
CASUALTY DATA:
Start Tour: 01/23/1968
Incident Date: 11/16/1968
Casualty Date: 02/08/1974
Age at Loss: 43 (based on date declared dead)
Location: Pleiku Province, South Vietnam
Remains: 1974 status: Body Not Recovered. Found later.
Repatriated: 06/21/1989 (Returned to US soil)
Identified: 08/06/1993
Casualty Type: Hostile, died while missing
Casualty Reason: Fixed Wing - Pilot
Casualty Detail: Air loss or crash over land
URL: www.VirtualWall.org/dk/KarstCF01a.htm
Data accessed: 6/2/2013
SYNOPSIS: On November 16, 1968, (then) Major Carl F. Karst, pilot, and Captain Nguyen X. Quy, VNAF observer, departed Pleiku in an O1F on a visual reconnais- sance mission over South Vietnam. At 1640 hours (4:40 p.m.), shortly after takeoff, Karst reported that his position was two nautical miles east of Plei- ku, and that he was proceeding with his mission. When subsequent attempts to raise Karst by radio failed, a search began. The search continued for three days without success. Karst was classified Missing in Action.
A few months later, a Vietnamese informer reported information given him by a NVA/VC propaganda team that Karst's aircraft was shot down by small arms fire and the Vietnamese observer was killed. The informer stated that Karst evaded to the south, but was captured and executed in a village in northern Phu Bon Province. The informant did not witness any of these events. The report was considered inaccurate because the a NVA/VC team was known for coloring stories to impress the local population, and because Karst was very knowledgeable of the location of Viet Cong and North Vietnamese units in the area. Those who knew Karst agreed that he would not have evaded to the south, but rather to the west where he knew he might reach friendly forces and safety.
In December 1983, a refugee turned over two bone fragments and a rubbing of a metal ID tag bearing Karst's name to U.S. officials in Malaysia. He stated that he had been given the remains and rubbing by a Buddhist monk in 1981. The refugee was told that the remains were among 7 American remains recovered at an unspecified location in the Central Highlands.
By 1984, U.S. officials had received a series of reports from eight separate sources reported information concerning the alleged remains and dog tags of Karst. Four provided information solely on Karst, while the other four sources related Karst's name to other Army personnel who had returned from Vietnam at the end of their tours.
From a contemporary news report:
Sunday, October 3, 1993
Twenty-five years after he disappeared in a plane crash in South Vietnam, Air Force Colonel Carl Karst was buried at Arlington National Cemetery.
Vietnamese officials turned over Col. Karst's remains in 1989, but they were not identified until last month by the Army's Central Identification Laboratory in Hawaii.
Colonel Karst was 38 when he was shot down while flying a Cessna O-1 "Bird Dog" reconnaissance plane on a mission November 16, 1968.
He was buried Friday with full honors and an Air Force flyover. He is survived by his wife, two sons and a daughter.
October 2, 1993
Arlington, Virginia -- With great dignity and poignancy, the nation paid its last respects Friday to Colonel Carl Karst, a moment delayed and denied for 25 years.
Karst, an Air Force colonel and a native of Barton County, Kansas, died in a plane crash in Vietnam in 1968. But two decades passed until his remains were returned to this country, were positively identified, and a burial was arranged.
On a golden autumn morning Friday at Arlington National Cemetery, the moment for that last salute finally arrived. Karst's wife and their three children now adults with children of their own watched as Karst's flag-draped casket was solemnly carried by horse-drawn caisson to be buried on American soil. Four US Air Force F-16 jets roared overhead in the Missing Man formation.
"Everyone, I think, was moved by the military ceremony, the flyover, the band; all of it together was just such a solemn and dignified way of bringing closure to a time that has been full of all kinds of emotions," said Ruth Nelson, Karst's widow who has since remarried.
Accompanying Karst's immediate family were relatives from throughout Kansas. Family friends. Old Air Force buddies. Newer friends from MIA groups. And an old neighbor from long ago, Bob Dole from nearby Russell, now a U.S. Senator. If the burial resurrected some pain, the greater feelings seemed to be those of gratitude. Finality. And peace.
"I know every family member feels very good about it," Dole said after the grave-side service.
To honor its fallen comrade, the Air Force proffered the special majesty and sounds of a full military burial at Arlington National Cemetery. The clip-clop of hooves from the team of horses. The hollow cadence of drums. The mournful strains of the Air Force Hymn. The crack of a 21-gun salute. The lonely call of "Taps." And then, silence, as the American flag was removed from the casket, folded crisply into a triangle and presented to the family. Military funerals have not greatly changed in the past 25 years, but feelings about Vietnam have. When Karst died 25 years ago, this country was bitterly divided about the costs and value of that war. And if some division remains, there is little dispute about the honor due the men and women who served their country in Vietnam, and for those who did not return.
"Regardless of the validity of the Vietnam War and we knew there was controversy the men who served in the war did so with honor and dedication," Nelson said. Karst's dedication is reflected in his military honors, including the Distinguished Flying Cross, the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart. He was a 14-year Air Force veteran when his reconnaissance plane was shot down in 1968. He was officially listed as missing in action until 1974, when military authorities changed his legal status to killed in action. His body was returned by Vietnam in 1989, and a positive identification made this year.
February 21, 1974 - Russell Record - Obituary
Plan Memorial Service for Col. Carl F. Karst
A memorial service will be conducted at 2 p.m. Monday, March 4, at St. John Lutheran Church in Russell for Col. Carl F. Karst, who was recently declared killed in action in South Vietnam. He had been listed as missing in action since Nov. 15, 1968.
Col. Karst was born Oct. 27, 1930 at Galatia, the son of Mr. and Mrs. Ben Karst. He was graduated from Hoisington High School and Kansas State University, Manhattan, receiving his Reserve Officers Training Corps commission and entering the Air Force in May 1954. At KSU he was a member of Beta Sigma Psi fraternity and the Student Council.
He was baptized in God's family as an infant at Immanuel Lutheran Church of Milberger and confirmed his faith as a youth in the same church. He proclaimed Jesus as Lord throughout his life and served Him with humility and joy in his work, his family, and his church.
Col. Karst was stationed at Marana Air Field, Tucson, Arizona, took flight training at San Angelo, Tex., and from there was assigned to Carawell Air Force Base, Ft. Worth, Tex., as a crew member of a B-36 (Strategic Air Comman). He spent eight years at Altus AFB, Okla., where he was aircraft commander of a B-52. He was graduated from Air Command and Staff College at Maxwell AFB in 1967, and received F-4 training at Victorville, Calif. at George AFB.
In January 1968, he left for southeast Asia where he became deputy commander of II Direct Air Support Center at Plieku, South Vietnam. On November 16, 1968, he was flying an O-1F reconnaissance, and failed to return.
In addition to his widow, Ruth Langholz Karst, whom he married in Russell in June 1954, he is survived by three children, Cathy 18, Tom 14, and Douglas 10, all of Manhattan where Mrs. Karst has made her home since 1971; his parents of the home at Galatia; two brothers, Arthur Karst, Galatia, and Leon Karst, Rush Center; and two sisters, Mrs. August Wilhelm, Ellinwood, and Mrs. Paul E. Dumler, Russell.
A memorial fund in his name has been established with the High Flight Foundation to maintain the facility in Colorado used for retreats for the families of men missing in action and prisoners of war. Contributions may be made through the Home State Bank of Russell.
Shot down on a mission over Vietnam
Colonel Carl Frederick Karst
21ST TAC AIR SPT SQDN, 504TH TAC AIR SPT GROUP, 7TH AF
United States Air Force
ON THE WALL: Panel W39 Line 74
PERSONAL DATA:
Home of Record Galatia, KS
Date of birth: 10/27/1930
This page Copyright© 1997-2013 www.VirtualWall.org
MILITARY DATA:
Service: United States Air Force
Grade at loss: O4
Rank: Colonel
Note: Promoted while in MIA status
ID No: 511324108
MOS: 1435F: Air Operations Officer
Length Service: **
Unit: 21ST TAC AIR SPT SQDN, 504TH TAC AIR SPT GROUP, 7TH AF
CASUALTY DATA:
Start Tour: 01/23/1968
Incident Date: 11/16/1968
Casualty Date: 02/08/1974
Age at Loss: 43 (based on date declared dead)
Location: Pleiku Province, South Vietnam
Remains: 1974 status: Body Not Recovered. Found later.
Repatriated: 06/21/1989 (Returned to US soil)
Identified: 08/06/1993
Casualty Type: Hostile, died while missing
Casualty Reason: Fixed Wing - Pilot
Casualty Detail: Air loss or crash over land
URL: www.VirtualWall.org/dk/KarstCF01a.htm
Data accessed: 6/2/2013
SYNOPSIS: On November 16, 1968, (then) Major Carl F. Karst, pilot, and Captain Nguyen X. Quy, VNAF observer, departed Pleiku in an O1F on a visual reconnais- sance mission over South Vietnam. At 1640 hours (4:40 p.m.), shortly after takeoff, Karst reported that his position was two nautical miles east of Plei- ku, and that he was proceeding with his mission. When subsequent attempts to raise Karst by radio failed, a search began. The search continued for three days without success. Karst was classified Missing in Action.
A few months later, a Vietnamese informer reported information given him by a NVA/VC propaganda team that Karst's aircraft was shot down by small arms fire and the Vietnamese observer was killed. The informer stated that Karst evaded to the south, but was captured and executed in a village in northern Phu Bon Province. The informant did not witness any of these events. The report was considered inaccurate because the a NVA/VC team was known for coloring stories to impress the local population, and because Karst was very knowledgeable of the location of Viet Cong and North Vietnamese units in the area. Those who knew Karst agreed that he would not have evaded to the south, but rather to the west where he knew he might reach friendly forces and safety.
In December 1983, a refugee turned over two bone fragments and a rubbing of a metal ID tag bearing Karst's name to U.S. officials in Malaysia. He stated that he had been given the remains and rubbing by a Buddhist monk in 1981. The refugee was told that the remains were among 7 American remains recovered at an unspecified location in the Central Highlands.
By 1984, U.S. officials had received a series of reports from eight separate sources reported information concerning the alleged remains and dog tags of Karst. Four provided information solely on Karst, while the other four sources related Karst's name to other Army personnel who had returned from Vietnam at the end of their tours.
From a contemporary news report:
Sunday, October 3, 1993
Twenty-five years after he disappeared in a plane crash in South Vietnam, Air Force Colonel Carl Karst was buried at Arlington National Cemetery.
Vietnamese officials turned over Col. Karst's remains in 1989, but they were not identified until last month by the Army's Central Identification Laboratory in Hawaii.
Colonel Karst was 38 when he was shot down while flying a Cessna O-1 "Bird Dog" reconnaissance plane on a mission November 16, 1968.
He was buried Friday with full honors and an Air Force flyover. He is survived by his wife, two sons and a daughter.
October 2, 1993
Arlington, Virginia -- With great dignity and poignancy, the nation paid its last respects Friday to Colonel Carl Karst, a moment delayed and denied for 25 years.
Karst, an Air Force colonel and a native of Barton County, Kansas, died in a plane crash in Vietnam in 1968. But two decades passed until his remains were returned to this country, were positively identified, and a burial was arranged.
On a golden autumn morning Friday at Arlington National Cemetery, the moment for that last salute finally arrived. Karst's wife and their three children now adults with children of their own watched as Karst's flag-draped casket was solemnly carried by horse-drawn caisson to be buried on American soil. Four US Air Force F-16 jets roared overhead in the Missing Man formation.
"Everyone, I think, was moved by the military ceremony, the flyover, the band; all of it together was just such a solemn and dignified way of bringing closure to a time that has been full of all kinds of emotions," said Ruth Nelson, Karst's widow who has since remarried.
Accompanying Karst's immediate family were relatives from throughout Kansas. Family friends. Old Air Force buddies. Newer friends from MIA groups. And an old neighbor from long ago, Bob Dole from nearby Russell, now a U.S. Senator. If the burial resurrected some pain, the greater feelings seemed to be those of gratitude. Finality. And peace.
"I know every family member feels very good about it," Dole said after the grave-side service.
To honor its fallen comrade, the Air Force proffered the special majesty and sounds of a full military burial at Arlington National Cemetery. The clip-clop of hooves from the team of horses. The hollow cadence of drums. The mournful strains of the Air Force Hymn. The crack of a 21-gun salute. The lonely call of "Taps." And then, silence, as the American flag was removed from the casket, folded crisply into a triangle and presented to the family. Military funerals have not greatly changed in the past 25 years, but feelings about Vietnam have. When Karst died 25 years ago, this country was bitterly divided about the costs and value of that war. And if some division remains, there is little dispute about the honor due the men and women who served their country in Vietnam, and for those who did not return.
"Regardless of the validity of the Vietnam War and we knew there was controversy the men who served in the war did so with honor and dedication," Nelson said. Karst's dedication is reflected in his military honors, including the Distinguished Flying Cross, the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart. He was a 14-year Air Force veteran when his reconnaissance plane was shot down in 1968. He was officially listed as missing in action until 1974, when military authorities changed his legal status to killed in action. His body was returned by Vietnam in 1989, and a positive identification made this year.
February 21, 1974 - Russell Record - Obituary
Plan Memorial Service for Col. Carl F. Karst
A memorial service will be conducted at 2 p.m. Monday, March 4, at St. John Lutheran Church in Russell for Col. Carl F. Karst, who was recently declared killed in action in South Vietnam. He had been listed as missing in action since Nov. 15, 1968.
Col. Karst was born Oct. 27, 1930 at Galatia, the son of Mr. and Mrs. Ben Karst. He was graduated from Hoisington High School and Kansas State University, Manhattan, receiving his Reserve Officers Training Corps commission and entering the Air Force in May 1954. At KSU he was a member of Beta Sigma Psi fraternity and the Student Council.
He was baptized in God's family as an infant at Immanuel Lutheran Church of Milberger and confirmed his faith as a youth in the same church. He proclaimed Jesus as Lord throughout his life and served Him with humility and joy in his work, his family, and his church.
Col. Karst was stationed at Marana Air Field, Tucson, Arizona, took flight training at San Angelo, Tex., and from there was assigned to Carawell Air Force Base, Ft. Worth, Tex., as a crew member of a B-36 (Strategic Air Comman). He spent eight years at Altus AFB, Okla., where he was aircraft commander of a B-52. He was graduated from Air Command and Staff College at Maxwell AFB in 1967, and received F-4 training at Victorville, Calif. at George AFB.
In January 1968, he left for southeast Asia where he became deputy commander of II Direct Air Support Center at Plieku, South Vietnam. On November 16, 1968, he was flying an O-1F reconnaissance, and failed to return.
In addition to his widow, Ruth Langholz Karst, whom he married in Russell in June 1954, he is survived by three children, Cathy 18, Tom 14, and Douglas 10, all of Manhattan where Mrs. Karst has made her home since 1971; his parents of the home at Galatia; two brothers, Arthur Karst, Galatia, and Leon Karst, Rush Center; and two sisters, Mrs. August Wilhelm, Ellinwood, and Mrs. Paul E. Dumler, Russell.
A memorial fund in his name has been established with the High Flight Foundation to maintain the facility in Colorado used for retreats for the families of men missing in action and prisoners of war. Contributions may be made through the Home State Bank of Russell.
Colonel Carl Frederick Karst
21ST TAC AIR SPT SQDN, 504TH TAC AIR SPT GROUP, 7TH AF
United States Air Force
ON THE WALL: Panel W39 Line 74
PERSONAL DATA:
Home of Record Galatia, KS
Date of birth: 10/27/1930
This page Copyright© 1997-2013 www.VirtualWall.org
MILITARY DATA:
Service: United States Air Force
Grade at loss: O4
Rank: Colonel
Note: Promoted while in MIA status
ID No: 511324108
MOS: 1435F: Air Operations Officer
Length Service: **
Unit: 21ST TAC AIR SPT SQDN, 504TH TAC AIR SPT GROUP, 7TH AF
CASUALTY DATA:
Start Tour: 01/23/1968
Incident Date: 11/16/1968
Casualty Date: 02/08/1974
Age at Loss: 43 (based on date declared dead)
Location: Pleiku Province, South Vietnam
Remains: 1974 status: Body Not Recovered. Found later.
Repatriated: 06/21/1989 (Returned to US soil)
Identified: 08/06/1993
Casualty Type: Hostile, died while missing
Casualty Reason: Fixed Wing - Pilot
Casualty Detail: Air loss or crash over land
URL: www.VirtualWall.org/dk/KarstCF01a.htm
Data accessed: 6/2/2013
SYNOPSIS: On November 16, 1968, (then) Major Carl F. Karst, pilot, and Captain Nguyen X. Quy, VNAF observer, departed Pleiku in an O1F on a visual reconnais- sance mission over South Vietnam. At 1640 hours (4:40 p.m.), shortly after takeoff, Karst reported that his position was two nautical miles east of Plei- ku, and that he was proceeding with his mission. When subsequent attempts to raise Karst by radio failed, a search began. The search continued for three days without success. Karst was classified Missing in Action.
A few months later, a Vietnamese informer reported information given him by a NVA/VC propaganda team that Karst's aircraft was shot down by small arms fire and the Vietnamese observer was killed. The informer stated that Karst evaded to the south, but was captured and executed in a village in northern Phu Bon Province. The informant did not witness any of these events. The report was considered inaccurate because the a NVA/VC team was known for coloring stories to impress the local population, and because Karst was very knowledgeable of the location of Viet Cong and North Vietnamese units in the area. Those who knew Karst agreed that he would not have evaded to the south, but rather to the west where he knew he might reach friendly forces and safety.
In December 1983, a refugee turned over two bone fragments and a rubbing of a metal ID tag bearing Karst's name to U.S. officials in Malaysia. He stated that he had been given the remains and rubbing by a Buddhist monk in 1981. The refugee was told that the remains were among 7 American remains recovered at an unspecified location in the Central Highlands.
By 1984, U.S. officials had received a series of reports from eight separate sources reported information concerning the alleged remains and dog tags of Karst. Four provided information solely on Karst, while the other four sources related Karst's name to other Army personnel who had returned from Vietnam at the end of their tours.
From a contemporary news report:
Sunday, October 3, 1993
Twenty-five years after he disappeared in a plane crash in South Vietnam, Air Force Colonel Carl Karst was buried at Arlington National Cemetery.
Vietnamese officials turned over Col. Karst's remains in 1989, but they were not identified until last month by the Army's Central Identification Laboratory in Hawaii.
Colonel Karst was 38 when he was shot down while flying a Cessna O-1 "Bird Dog" reconnaissance plane on a mission November 16, 1968.
He was buried Friday with full honors and an Air Force flyover. He is survived by his wife, two sons and a daughter.
October 2, 1993
Arlington, Virginia -- With great dignity and poignancy, the nation paid its last respects Friday to Colonel Carl Karst, a moment delayed and denied for 25 years.
Karst, an Air Force colonel and a native of Barton County, Kansas, died in a plane crash in Vietnam in 1968. But two decades passed until his remains were returned to this country, were positively identified, and a burial was arranged.
On a golden autumn morning Friday at Arlington National Cemetery, the moment for that last salute finally arrived. Karst's wife and their three children now adults with children of their own watched as Karst's flag-draped casket was solemnly carried by horse-drawn caisson to be buried on American soil. Four US Air Force F-16 jets roared overhead in the Missing Man formation.
"Everyone, I think, was moved by the military ceremony, the flyover, the band; all of it together was just such a solemn and dignified way of bringing closure to a time that has been full of all kinds of emotions," said Ruth Nelson, Karst's widow who has since remarried.
Accompanying Karst's immediate family were relatives from throughout Kansas. Family friends. Old Air Force buddies. Newer friends from MIA groups. And an old neighbor from long ago, Bob Dole from nearby Russell, now a U.S. Senator. If the burial resurrected some pain, the greater feelings seemed to be those of gratitude. Finality. And peace.
"I know every family member feels very good about it," Dole said after the grave-side service.
To honor its fallen comrade, the Air Force proffered the special majesty and sounds of a full military burial at Arlington National Cemetery. The clip-clop of hooves from the team of horses. The hollow cadence of drums. The mournful strains of the Air Force Hymn. The crack of a 21-gun salute. The lonely call of "Taps." And then, silence, as the American flag was removed from the casket, folded crisply into a triangle and presented to the family. Military funerals have not greatly changed in the past 25 years, but feelings about Vietnam have. When Karst died 25 years ago, this country was bitterly divided about the costs and value of that war. And if some division remains, there is little dispute about the honor due the men and women who served their country in Vietnam, and for those who did not return.
"Regardless of the validity of the Vietnam War and we knew there was controversy the men who served in the war did so with honor and dedication," Nelson said. Karst's dedication is reflected in his military honors, including the Distinguished Flying Cross, the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart. He was a 14-year Air Force veteran when his reconnaissance plane was shot down in 1968. He was officially listed as missing in action until 1974, when military authorities changed his legal status to killed in action. His body was returned by Vietnam in 1989, and a positive identification made this year.
February 21, 1974 - Russell Record - Obituary
Plan Memorial Service for Col. Carl F. Karst
A memorial service will be conducted at 2 p.m. Monday, March 4, at St. John Lutheran Church in Russell for Col. Carl F. Karst, who was recently declared killed in action in South Vietnam. He had been listed as missing in action since Nov. 15, 1968.
Col. Karst was born Oct. 27, 1930 at Galatia, the son of Mr. and Mrs. Ben Karst. He was graduated from Hoisington High School and Kansas State University, Manhattan, receiving his Reserve Officers Training Corps commission and entering the Air Force in May 1954. At KSU he was a member of Beta Sigma Psi fraternity and the Student Council.
He was baptized in God's family as an infant at Immanuel Lutheran Church of Milberger and confirmed his faith as a youth in the same church. He proclaimed Jesus as Lord throughout his life and served Him with humility and joy in his work, his family, and his church.
Col. Karst was stationed at Marana Air Field, Tucson, Arizona, took flight training at San Angelo, Tex., and from there was assigned to Carawell Air Force Base, Ft. Worth, Tex., as a crew member of a B-36 (Strategic Air Comman). He spent eight years at Altus AFB, Okla., where he was aircraft commander of a B-52. He was graduated from Air Command and Staff College at Maxwell AFB in 1967, and received F-4 training at Victorville, Calif. at George AFB.
In January 1968, he left for southeast Asia where he became deputy commander of II Direct Air Support Center at Plieku, South Vietnam. On November 16, 1968, he was flying an O-1F reconnaissance, and failed to return.
In addition to his widow, Ruth Langholz Karst, whom he married in Russell in June 1954, he is survived by three children, Cathy 18, Tom 14, and Douglas 10, all of Manhattan where Mrs. Karst has made her home since 1971; his parents of the home at Galatia; two brothers, Arthur Karst, Galatia, and Leon Karst, Rush Center; and two sisters, Mrs. August Wilhelm, Ellinwood, and Mrs. Paul E. Dumler, Russell.
A memorial fund in his name has been established with the High Flight Foundation to maintain the facility in Colorado used for retreats for the families of men missing in action and prisoners of war. Contributions may be made through the Home State Bank of Russell.
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