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Zella (#46524425)
 member for 14 years, 9 months, 20 days
Alfred French
No worries, I have corrected his burial location. Thank you.

Added by SKJerome on Oct 06, 2016 10:24 AM

Julie Schaeffer
Elizabeth Lasher #166211481
I used her obituary as printed in the Akron Beacon Journal in 1945 as the source for her burial in Glendale. Is there a way I can send it to you? Not sure how to attach it within this message. I sure hope I have the right place, but might be wrong. Thanks for your help!!

Added by Julie Schaeffer on Oct 06, 2016 4:57 AM

RE: Michael Hileman
You wrote: "From the timeline that I can put together, the erroneous stone was possibly added in the mid 70s."

My understanding that it was part of Bicentennial effort to replace Revolutionary War vets' deteriorating stones. They were all to be in place by 1976. What I have yet to determine is who supplied the erroneous dates. It seems an odd mistake, as the original stone had not deteriorated so far as to be unreadable.
More later....

Added by Starfishin on Oct 04, 2016 11:48 PM

Beverly Sprowl Teibel
Thanks so much for the heads up....I appreciate your letting me know.

Added by Beverly Sprowl Teibel on Oct 02, 2016 7:01 AM

RE: Michael Hileman
Thank you for your considered response.

You wrote [among other things]: "Deleting mine (with photo and explanation) would mean that eventually someone is going to create a fictional person called "Michael Hileman 1726-1819" from that erroneous tombstone."

I agree that is a potential problem. I have worked to address that issue with the memorial of a freed, formerly enslaved, person, whose grave bears a name significantly different from the one she is known as in the historical record. We decided it made sense to leave both memorials, with the one with the historical record spelling directing searchers to the memorial bearing the name on the grave. We were afraid, as you suspect is likely in this case, if we deleted the one memorial it would be be continually recreated by new searchers. While truly "duplicate" memorials are never desirable, something similar may be called for in this case.

I have been working to determine exactly who/what organization is responsible for the wrong dates on the 20th century grave marker. Unfortunately, to date it's a bit murky.

You have raised a number of other interesting points. Unfortunately I don't have the time to address them right now, but please be assured I take them seriously and will respond to them as time allows.

Added by Starfishin on Oct 01, 2016 5:48 PM

Brian J. Ensley
Alda Messersmith

Well, thank you so much for your kind words. One thing I've found in my personal life and the Army- Life is short and squabbling over something so trivial like Find-A-Grave is so ridiculous. I deleted Alda's memorial.

I transcribed both the Pringle Hill and Carpenter cemeteries back in the 1990's and most likely didn't refer to my own published books first before creating hers. Anyhow, however you want to handle it just let me know how I can help. And thanks again for the kind words. This sit is supposed to be a team effort, but just like anything else in life, we run into so many people and their different personalities, etc.


Added by Brian J. Ensley on Oct 01, 2016 10:59 AM

Michael Hileman
Thank you for getting in touch.

You wrote:

"Hello, I already added Michael Hileman to the Geeseytown cemetery over 10 years ago:
memorial #12650694
He was also already linked to his parents.

I'm sorry -- you must have forgotten we already discussed this. When I searched for Michael Hileman, there was no memorial for him in that cemetery -- no one with his name, and dates. I then added it. Later I was made aware that you had created a memorial for someone called Johan Michael Hileman. As far as I know, there is no one by that name in that cemetery, and certainly no one in my family line by that name in that cemetery. You have also provided various and changing dates for Johan Hileman on your memorial. I presented you with documentation for Michael Hileman, including probate and DAR records, which was ignored. I asked you for information as to why you believed Michael Hileman was Johan Hileman, a request which was also ignored.

I was at Geeseytown cemetery in July, and coincidentally ran into another Hileman descendant -- someone I had not known previously. He is as distressed as I am by the perpetuation of the Johan Hileman myth, which has now been picked up by folks using Ancestry and other sites. He speculated that someone had confused Michael's records with his father's, but is not sure how or why that might have occurred.

You may indeed have evidence that a Johan Hileman is buried in this cemetery. But his memorial, if he existed, is linked to people that he was not related to and features a gravestone that is not his.

Honest errors are made on Find A Grave, by volunteers who are doing the best they can. But sometimes it seems like some people are not concerned with accuracy, but only about adding to their total number of memorials. Fortunately, that is rare. I'm not interested in speculating about the motives of individual contributors -- honestly, only the individual contributor knows his/her motivations.

That said, I am confident that the memorial I created was the first memorial to be created for Michael Hileman in Geeseytown cemetery.

Thank you for taking the time to write.

Added by Starfishin on Sep 30, 2016 8:42 PM

John Hileman
Memorial 12650694

As a Hileman researcher, could you please provide me with the source for the name Johan Michael Hileman?

I have only seen him listed without the "Johan".


Added by John Hileman on Sep 29, 2016 7:00 PM

Arthur Hepler
RE: Susan Mitchell
OK! Thanks!

I took another look at the memorial.

I will let the death certificate there unless you request it to be removed

Added by Arthur Hepler on Sep 25, 2016 8:10 AM

Brian J. Ensley
Anna Lavely
Thanks for the heads-up on her husband. I made the change. What you said makes perfect sense.


Added by Brian J. Ensley on Sep 25, 2016 5:37 AM

Arthur Hepler
RE: Susan Mitchell
can you please include the memorial number?

Added by Arthur Hepler on Sep 24, 2016 7:26 PM

Arthur Hepler
RE: Susan Mitchell
Thank you

I will remove the death certificate.

Added by Arthur Hepler on Sep 24, 2016 7:24 PM

Nancy Yost
RE: Kathryn Roberts 1925-1925
Thanks, I realized that later. Pam was so helpful in locating the stone for us. I took mom last week. Thanks again

Added by Nancy Yost on Sep 20, 2016 8:17 AM

John Gaines, Catherine Gaines
Thanks for the information.

Added by snyclefrytz on Sep 14, 2016 10:31 AM

Samuel Nofsker gravstone photo
May I have your permission to download the photo of the gravestones of Samuel and Eve Nofsker (memorial 150023509)?
I would like to upload them into my Ancestry Family Tree.
Thank you for your consideration and obvious hard work to take these photos of the final resting places of our distant relatives!
-Ro Fleury

Added by MissKitty on Sep 13, 2016 4:04 PM

Stephanie Lambert
Matilda Leberknight Spangler
Thank you for the correction. I deleted the incorrect memorial and added the death certificate to the correct one.

Added by Stephanie Lambert on Sep 12, 2016 6:44 PM

Mary Denzinger
William Duffy/Duff
Thank you for letting me know about the duplicate listing for William. I have deleted mine as requested.
If I can be of further help please let me know.
Mary Denzinger

Added by Mary Denzinger on Sep 12, 2016 5:11 AM

John Gaines, Catherine Gaines
Do you know what section of Rose Hill the Gaines' are buried in? I was out there and the cemetery is very large. I could not find them. Any help would be appreciated.

Added by snyclefrytz on Sep 11, 2016 7:35 AM

K Hash
RE: Patrick Coughlin
It's not the same person. I cancelled the edit. There is a Patrick Coughlin living with Martin and Minnie Kennedy. Martin's mother was Bridget Coughlin. The dates don't match up so there must have been more than one Patrick living in Akron. Sorry for the mistake.

Added by K Hash on Sep 07, 2016 8:58 PM

Nancy Yost
Kathryn Roberts 1925-1925
I appreciate the photo of my mother's baby sister. Mom, 94, recalls one time her grandfather took her to a cemetery and pointed to stone saying, "this is your baby sister." She has no other memory of any one mentioning her system. She wasn't sure if it was true even. I plan on driving to the cement are next week to see if we can locate the stone.

Thanks for your work on this.

Added by Nancy Yost on Sep 06, 2016 7:00 PM

Beth Bush
RE: Cousins at Glendale
No I don't, sorry.

Added by Beth Bush on Sep 05, 2016 3:14 PM

Linda Applegate Brown
Catharine Ashenfelter 169311012
Thank you for providing me with the correct cemetery - I have made the correction. It's a shame that the cemetery is so overgrown and the owners don't seem inclined to take care of it. Thanks again! ~Linda

Added by Linda Applegate Brown on Sep 05, 2016 10:13 AM

Dennis Friedman
RE: photo of barbara lang
Thank you letting me use you the picture and yes you had told me, I hope some day to be able to take to you in person, thank you, Dennis

Added by Dennis Friedman on Sep 05, 2016 8:45 AM

Dennis Friedman
photo of barbara lang
Hi Zella
I would like to copy your picture to my family tree on
the Memorial is one you transfered to me.

Added by Dennis Friedman on Sep 04, 2016 5:10 PM

Stephen Thomas
Abe Riznikove 111644853
Would you please consider transferring Abe Riznikove's memorial to me? I am one of his great-grandchildren. Thanks.

Steve Thomas

Added by Stephen Thomas on Sep 03, 2016 7:34 PM


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