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Georgia Girl (#46981215)
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Michael Tyler
Find A Grave Memorial# 133339460
Carol, yDNA testing has revealed the John Tyler of Hanover county is not the father of the Chowan, North Carolina Tyler line. Rebecca Tyler Allen and John Pavolwich published a lineage which made speculative connections without regard to conflicting facts. Two John Tyler men in two locations simultaneously were confused into one, and their descendants have different unrelated haplotypes.

Added by Michael Tyler on Feb 01, 2015 11:28 AM

Michael Tyler
RE: TYLER line
Carol, I think I forgot to reply that my line comes from John Tyler and Mary Gardner.

Added by Michael Tyler on Feb 01, 2015 5:54 AM

Michael Tyler
Elizabeth Strother
Elizabeth Strother (1784-1822) who was the "1st wife" of Benjamin Pendleton appears to be the grand-daughter of Anthony Strother.

Added by Michael Tyler on Jan 31, 2015 2:08 PM

Gerald
Willis Hancock - Hancock cemetery
Do you have any photos or know the location of the Hancock Family cemetery where Willis Hancock is buried?

I may be able to take and post photos if I locate it.

Thanks
Gerald

Added by Gerald on Jan 31, 2015 12:45 PM

Zara Mercer
Andrew Jackson Jack Lesueur
Andrew Jackson Jack LeSueur Is my3 great Grand uncle on my mothers side the Roberts Side of my family
Zara Garrett Mercer

Added by Zara Mercer on Jan 31, 2015 10:28 AM

Michael Tyler
RE: TYLER - STROTHER - ALLEN
Lyon Tyler corrected the parents for Henry Tyler. His mother was Margaret Watts and William Strother was the son of William Strother and Margaret Thornton.

Added by Michael Tyler on Jan 31, 2015 8:10 AM

Michael Tyler
Marriage index entry
There is information stating a John Tyler and Eleanor Strother were married in Stafford County, Virginia in the year 1780 per "U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900, online index at Ancestry.com. The detail information from Ancestry.com concerning the citation is that "this citation was obtained from an individual submission as part of a family group sheet and not part of an official Church or civil record, other than being listed as parents of an individual."

What was the true source of the information included in the index?

I would like to take this conversation off the Find-A-grave message board, please contact me directly.

Added by Michael Tyler on Jan 31, 2015 7:51 AM

Michael Tyler
John and Eleanor marriage
Carol, I just repeated what has become a part of an Ancestry index. There needs to be some serious research to see if that information is correct. Because of the lack of documentation, the most reliable indicator would be yDNA testing of a lineal male descendant of Thomas Tyler.

Added by Michael Tyler on Jan 30, 2015 6:08 AM

Michael Tyler
Tyler family info
Hi Carol,

I went to the VSL and have transcribed the article Tyler-Strother-Allen. John Tyler is only mentioned as being born to Henry and Alice, there is no other mention of him.

I think this would be a perfect instance of yDNA being able to indicate where to look for evidence of connections, if there is a lineal male descendant of Thomas.

One puzzle is someone's information became incorporated into a marriage index at Ancestry. Their info states John Tyler wed Eleanor Strother in the year 1780 in Stafford. I have looked for any extant record corroborating that index entry and have found none. The contact person also found no chancery causes mentioning John Tyler.

PM me at sauerclk@hotmail.com and I can send the article.

Mike

Added by Michael Tyler on Jan 28, 2015 6:41 AM

Linda Jean Wilson Leach
Irvin family cemetery plot in Milner
HI thanks for the posts. Am a relative of these people. What is your connection?
Tks
LJ Leach

Added by Linda Jean Wilson Leach on Jan 27, 2015 3:00 PM

Michael Tyler
Tyler-Strother-Allen
The reference concerning an “insane” John Tyler comes from:
vagenweb.org/stafford/captainhenrytyler.htm

In regard to the referenced chancery suit, I have a person to contact and I am trying to locate that article.

“Allice” Tyler is listed in the 1789 tax list and there are two “whites” in the family.

Thomas Gowery Strother is married to Ann Fisher Adie in Virginia. In the 1789 tax list he is listed as the only “white” person for his name, so Ann is not with him. In fact, he is referenced as “destitute” when he moves to Georgia by some sources and administration of his father’s estate was removed by suit.

Anne or Anna Tyler is the daughter who wed Robert Maze and moved to Georgia.

Regarding the marriage of Joseph Allen of Fauquier County to a Tyler, there is an online view of “Genealogies of Virginia Families: From Tyler’s Quarterly, Vol I” (1981 reprint), pp 2-4.

https://books.google.com/books?id=55I38FXWyPgC&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=tyler-strother-allen&source=bl&ots=MlnE1kR6_N&sig=fH9BBRDdf6_mJVrgxnrvdcd5skc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=lEfCVMa0O4HjsATri4GgDQ&ved=0CDQQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=tyler-strother-allen&f=false

This reference lists Joseph Allen marrying Alice Tyler. This entire family relocates to Columbia County, Georgia. Joseph’s will is mentioned as dated 1803 and proved Dec. 1804. He apparently says “my beloved wife” in his will, so Alice survives him. Some have connected Anna to Joseph Allen, which is not correct.

In another online Strother listing there is a reference of John Tyler (1743-1813) marrying Eleanor Strother, and her birth is given as bef. 1732.
http://www.multiwords.de/genealogy/strother.html
There is much confusion of information on this site and other “Strother” sites, especially the “mixing” of children or spouses between the brothers and cousins.

In a book compiled containing Overwharton Parish records, there is a reference to another “John Tyler” who is apparently too old to be the son of Henry and Alice. Some have attributed him as marrying Million Waugh. There are more than two unrelated Tyler lines in the northern Virginia area during this time and given the loss of records, following the lines is difficult, but you already know this!

Added by Michael Tyler on Jan 23, 2015 6:53 AM

The Todd's of Scotland
William Worsham # 82327282
Im sorry inform but there is already a memorial for this person>
Yours: Dec 24, 2011 (# 82327282)
Theirs: Jul 16, 2011 (# 73427656)

Just thought you would like to know..

Added by The Todd's of Scotland on Jan 23, 2015 6:52 AM

JoAnn HAGANS Harris
Edwin J. Cannon
Please look over and as you wish:

Edward J. Cannon

Died 9/1/1920, 53 years of age

Source:

Savannah's Catholic Cemetery
Savannah, Chatham Co., GA.
Volume II, No designative Lot, Page 245
Catholic Diocese of Savannah

Savannah Catholic Cemetery - Burials With No Designated Lot.

Added by JoAnn HAGANS Harris on Jan 22, 2015 6:48 PM

barbara cassell
RE: Searching John Dawson d 1734
Georgia Girl, I am so sorry, I think I wrote the wrong year. I will check and get back to you. Thank you for responding.
Barbara

Added by barbara cassell on Jan 22, 2015 11:43 AM

Michael Tyler
RE: John Tyler and Eleanor Strother
Carol,

Thanks for the reply. I have seen the records relating to Thomas Tyler and his descendants and I think the descendants are well documented.

My question is in regard to the source information used for connecting John Tyler to Henry Tyler and Alice Strother of Stafford County. I cannot locate any primary sources to establish that connection, and most information points to their son being single.

There were at least two unrelated Tyler lines in Stafford County in that timeframe.

Mike

Added by Michael Tyler on Jan 22, 2015 10:55 AM

T Jeffs
RE: Reuben Arnold and Salina Luzia Kelley
Thanks for getting back to me. Did whoever contacted you offer any proof? Based on his leaving her 160 acres, I tend to believe it is true although with having 2 kids together I'd love to know why they never married.

Added by T Jeffs on Jan 22, 2015 9:47 AM

Cheryl White
Theodore & Harriet Naill
I have added the cemetery info to Theodore and Harriet's pages in Mount Hope Cemetery, Topeka, Kansas.

Added by Cheryl White on Jan 21, 2015 9:09 AM

T Jeffs
Reuben Arnold and Salina Luzia Kelley
Salina Luzia Kelley is my Great, Great Grandmother and her son, Green Joshua Kelley is my Great Grandfather. I'm wondering if you have any evidence to back up your story that Reuben Arnold is the biologocial father of Green Joshua and Sarah Elizabeth Kelley? I've heard stories and I know that Reuben Arnold left Salina 160 acres of land, but do you have any written evidence that Reuben is the father? Obviously, Green and Sarah never used the "Arnold" name.

Added by T Jeffs on Jan 20, 2015 11:52 AM

Michael Tyler
John Tyler and Eleanor Strother
Carol,

I am curious as to your sources for the parents of John Tyler. There are several family trees with conflicting information regarding this John Tyler, including a marriage to a Miss Bowles and living in Indiana.

The most concise references, closest to the sources in Stafford County, indicate John, the son of Henry and Alice, was insane and after his mother passed in 1791, was placed in the custody of his sister.

Added by Michael Tyler on Jan 19, 2015 12:58 PM

vicki30030
James Peden
The cemetery has a James L. Paden in their records. I was able to find the stone for James M. Paden (aged 62 year) and his wife, Lucinda (aged 75 years). No specific dates of birth or death on the gravestone. Is that the Paden you are looking for?

In the same plot is Martha C. Paden, born 15 Jul 1847 and died 24 Feb 1914. Also Mary J. Paden Wells, born 6 Oct 1853 and died 3 Jun 1888.

Let me know and I will add the photo if you think this is the correct James Paden.

Added by vicki30030 on Jan 18, 2015 10:14 PM

barbara cassell
Searching John Dawson d 1734
HI Georgia Girl. I see where you have listed John Dawson. Can you give me any information you have on him? He is my 5X great grandfather.
Thank You so much, Barbara cassell

Added by barbara cassell on Jan 18, 2015 2:20 PM

TODD
RE: LeSueur
Oh I have a good bit of information. James Dillard LeSueur's father was Fielding Dillard LeSueur who has a Civil War memorial in Winterville, GA. He along with other veterans were memorialized in the cemetery in November 2014
Whose names are you missing?

feel free to be in touch by email

wtodduga@gmail.com

I am happy to exchange information there.

Added by TODD on Jan 16, 2015 10:43 PM

TODD
LeSueur
I have been doing research on my grandmother's family, the LeSueur's of Oglethorpe County.

I have attempted to use some of your records in my own research to trace the family back to the Huguenots but I have some loose connections I need to solidify.

Would you be kind enough to be in touch with me for some help?

My grandmother is Cecile Belle LeSueur, daughter of James Dillard LeSueur.

Best,

Todd

wtodduga@gmail.com

Added by TODD on Jan 15, 2015 11:19 AM

MTB
RE: Georgia B. H. Huntt
You are welcome, I hope that the other memorial meets your expectations.

mtb

Added by MTB on Jan 12, 2015 9:39 AM

S Batte
Beuel David Batte
Dear Carol, Shortly after I left you my message, I found Chamberlain & Ann (Aneliza! They are buried in Mount Carmel Cemetery in Smith County! You must have brought me good luck! : )
Sandy

Added by S Batte on Jan 11, 2015 1:59 PM

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