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Albert Ledoux (#46511171)
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RE: Frederick County Catholic graves of the 1700s
I've read those DAR accounts, too, of what the Elders say about OUR Elder grandfathers. More exaggerating to the 'nth degree and great examples of what I already said. There were lots of people who did just as much who are passed over (and even trod upon) by the Elders rushing for notice. :0)
Added by on Jul 24, 2014 4:59 PM
Frederick County Catholic graves of the 1700s
Father Ledoux,

Thank you for your great info in your reply. I am very familiar with Elder Cemetery and the graves there. My direct line grandparents include both double grandfather Arnold Livers & wife Mary Ann Drane and Wm Elder II & wife Jacoba Clementina Livers Elder, in 2 independent lines.

This Arnold Livers (prob b 1669), the progenitor of the Livers family in America, was not buried in Elder Cemetery and few of the vast number of Catholics who died in Frederick County in the 1700s were. (In that era, I had 13 direct-line grandparents living in Frederick County, so I've studied the history.) Livers, Hardy, Elder, McAtee, Gardner/Gardiner, Drane, DeVilbiss, Brent, Brawner, Stimson, Finch, etc., are in my tree.)

Catholic services also were held in Arnold Livers' home, and others. But Wm Elder II (a braggart grandfather I find most boorish) always scurried to take credit for everything any Catholic did in Frederick County. That was Arnold Livers estate that the Elders gave to build St. Mary's college and they wouldn't have had access to any if it if Wm Elder II hadn't married Arnold Livers daughter, but that point ungraciously is omitted in Elder history. I'm immensely more proud of my Livers line. Nothing more disappointing than a religious hypocrite.

I also know there are so many Arnold Lives that the source info sometimes gets merged thru the centuries. He reportedly was buried at "the Mount" in 1751. At that time, that very likely meant he was buried on his own property, which perhaps is a clue to his lost grave?

Thanks so much for you input. It got me thinking!
Added by on Jul 24, 2014 4:44 PM
Arnold Livers grave
What you say would seem logical, but several - including the well-documented Arnold Livers (prob b 1699-d 1751), who had land and family in Frederick Co., was buried here. He is buried with many others on what they called "the Mount" (St. Mary's) near the first church of that congregation. His vast land, called Arnold's Delight, was across from and on the land where St. Marys college now stand. One of his heirs donated the land to the college.

Since FindAGrave merged the listings of Mt. St. Marys Cemetery and St Anthony's cemeteries, I suspect St. Anthony's - started in 1806 - was nothing but a new name.

If you look on Arnold's profile here, there's a list of many buried around that church. I checked the names before and after his and they are not in this directory. Perhaps the stones sunk or were disintegrated. I don't live there, but I'd love to know what happened to all those graves on 'The Mount," as it was commonly referred to back then, well before 1806.

Added by on Jul 24, 2014 1:14 PM
David Laughlin
Cecelia Wilt Tombstone Photo
Thanks Fr. for the photo of Cecelia Trexler Wilt, I appreciate it.

Added by David Laughlin on Jul 19, 2014 6:18 AM
Donald Coho
Cambrians and Co K
Rev Ledoux,
Here is my status with Co K. There are several Cambrians within this list. Have I mentioned that Sgt John Coho was born in Wilmore? Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Beatty, Frank, 3rd PVI, Franklin M, Corporal
Bell, Joseph H., Private
Commerford, James, John Comorford, Corporal
Conway, John A., Private
Cook, Henry H., Private
King, James, Cambrian, Private
Mauer, Joseph, Private
McClarey, Samuel or McCleary, Cambrian, muster McCleary, pens card as invalid 1869, Private
Reinhart, Joseph, alt: Rinehart, Reinard, Private
Rhodes, Abraham, Rhoades, Private
Rhodes, Jacob, Rhoades Private
Shotts, Henry M. or Shots, B3K,125PA,E184OH; w: beulah; she rem Burkhart; d 11/28/1876 E St Louis IL, Corporal
Traves, Daniel J., w: Carrier f:Ohio; d 12/23/1900, 2d Lt.
Trought, Frederick, alt: Trout, Troud, Troup, Private
Yerger, Henry, alt: Yeager,Yarger, Private

Rodamor, John or Rodamon, d 4/27/1924 @ Newark NJ, Private
Smith, James Robert, Cambrian, Private
Weakfield, Thomas, d 12/15/1906,Private

Don Coho
Added by Donald Coho on Jul 14, 2014 4:17 PM
Donald Coho
RE:Josiah Lingenfelter
Rev Ledoux,
A very hearty THANK YOU for directing me to the correct Josiah Lingenfelter. Every contribution to the 125PVI Virt Cem is greatly appreciated, but the ESPECIALLY ACCURATE ones are as valuable as nuggets of gold.
Don Coho
Added by Donald Coho on Jul 14, 2014 10:50 AM
Pamela Hoffman Winkler
Peter A. Melhorn

If you are not related to Peter, would you mind transferring his memorial to me? He is my great-great-grandfather.

Thank you for all you've done!

Added by Pamela Hoffman Winkler on Jul 09, 2014 3:23 AM
Donald Coho
125th PVI Virt Cem
Rev Ledoux,
If you have any interest I have a 'working list' in an Excel spreadsheet. It includes 200(ish) soldiers for whom:

1) I have no clue or
2) I've made a guess selection from FG records. Or
3) I've created a cyber-cenotaph

It includes various pension notations, etc.

Lately, I have been unraveling spelling variations & unfathomable aliases ;-)

Don C
Added by Donald Coho on Jul 07, 2014 12:31 PM
Donald Coho
McDermitt in St Augustine
Rev Ledoux,
THANK YOU! Indeed, I have connected Michael McDermitt to the 125th Virtual Cem. and removed his 'cyber-cenotaph' from Antietam Nat Cem. I hope you understand how incredibly important the casualties from Co. K are to me as the direct descendant of Sgt John Coho (Co. K)("Kahoe" on muster roll), a man who prodded these boys into battle.
Donald E Coho
PS John Benton of Co E is also my 3rd great grandfather
Added by Donald Coho on Jul 06, 2014 5:00 PM
Warren Eastright
SS. Peter and Paul Cemetery, Portage
Hi Albert, hope you can solve my problem with this cemetery. SS. Peter and Paul Cemetery, Portage, I'm thinking that its listed on F.A.G. as Sacred Heart Cemetery. Hope you can straight-en me out.

Added by Warren Eastright on Jul 04, 2014 3:23 PM
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