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Carol Page Tilson (#46543875)
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Bio Photo As a former newspaper reporter/photographer, high school journalism teacher, old-fashioned genealogical researcher and long-time Find A Grave member, I believe the best memorial is correct, as complete as possible and linked to parents, spouse and children. It should memorialize a person, not just a name.

Most of my memorials are for my own or my husband's ancestors and collateral kin, some close relatives, some distant, some in-laws, from evidence garnered by personal research.

However, not all memorials have been created by relatives, researchers or those who consider it a service to photograph markers, recording burials in their home locales. The majority are submitted by others who know nothing about the people or places. Their sources and motives vary.

Some insist Find A Grave is strictly a "graves registry"; exactly what's on a stone [or online cemetery list] should be sufficient. While that may have been the case in the beginning, the site has evolved over the years with maiden name, parental/spousal link and other options added. To deny F-A-G has a genealogical purpose is folly, especially since it's now owned by

Fair warning: Find A Grave memorials are not primary documentation. Just because something's "engraved in stone" doesn't necessarily mean it's true. Names and dates on grave markers are often wrong; everything on a death certificate or what's in an obit isn't always true.

Info on the dead is provided by the living -- what they know, think they know, what's written in the Family Bible, what they were told or what a little leaf suggested. Unfortunately, people make mistakes.

Whether or not a memorial is factual depends on everyone from whoever decided what would be inscribed on a marker and the stone cutter, to whoever kept cemetery records and/or "read" the marker or typed up the online burial list.

I make no claim of being perfect [my dadgum mouse definitely has a problem with drop-down option lists]. As a family researcher, I want to know if I've done something stupid or wrong.

In bygone days, I asked for proof from those requesting changes. With the increasingly widespread acceptance of F-A-G's "do-it-yourself" edit process, I've had to toss in the towel and go with the flow. However, for me, making major changes in data without evidence is counter-productive and distasteful. I'd appreciate knowing the source for any such alteration.

Unfortunately, not all folks asking for changes are researchers. Thus, this "convenient" edit option cannot help but affect the overall credibility of the site.

Any edits which disagree with vital record evidence will be declined. And if I can't contact a person to ask for source of info, his/her edit will not be accepted. If you opt to post under an anonymous screen name and not take messages, don't even waste your time.

Use the final option on the edit menu if you want a more specific explanation for a "decline" or would like evidence for one of my suggestions [I often send a vital record or obit anyway].

I'll gladly transfer a memorial to any researcher more closely connected to the individual than I -- fourth cousin beats fifth cousin twice removed. I'd especially like to reunite in-laws whom I've not researched in-depth with their direct kin. Please, just write and ask.

When it comes to Find A Grave, I consider family and FACTS more important than FAQs.


10 Feb 2015

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Sidney Williams
Thank you for the correction, which has been updated.
Added by Kaye (Wickline) Rogers-We... on Feb 21, 2015 6:23 PM
Caroline M. Bailey Colvin

I have added the bio. to the memorial for Caroline M. Bailey Colvin #97226833. If you are tracing the Colvin's and Bailey's I have taken a number of photos of the Colvin's and Bailey's in the Shoemaker Cemetery in Dalton PA. If you would like I can E-Mail them to you.

Added by 263lhr on Feb 15, 2015 10:14 PM
Kathy and Jim Schutt
RE: Mary Ann Colvin Update
Hi Carol,

I was hoping to have good news for you but I received a reply from the state of Michigan and they were unable to locate Mary Ann Fall's death certificate in 1889. So no luck there. I was hoping to get some proof that Antipass Colvin and Mary Howland were her parents. I need to link them and also Antipass to Jeremiah Colvin. All the links for myself to Mary Ann are verified. It looks like from Jeremiah to Levi to John 2, John 1 are verified. It is just the middle generations. Do you have any other information and does that lineage seem correct to you?

If these are correct then Levi would be my ancestor that served during the Revolutionary War. Along with all the information for his wife, Lydia Jenks, family. The Howland's have some interesting history too.

Another question: Do you have a family tree on ancestry?

thanks, Kathy Schutt
Added by Kathy and Jim Schutt on Feb 13, 2015 5:58 PM
Peggy George
Just wondering
How did you come to have a copy of my paternal grandmother, Lizzie Bell (Stone) Raymond's death certificate ? As far as I know, my father, George Albert Raymond, regarded that as a highly classified family document. I was rather shocked to see it available online.

Peggy Sue (Raymond) George
Added by Peggy George on Feb 11, 2015 1:38 PM
Mike F
I love what you wrote. BRAVO! :)
Added by Mike F on Feb 10, 2015 12:53 PM
Linda Berney
RE: Peter Graae
Have you seen her actual obit? It appears that the person who extracted it also saw the wrong spelling on it. Very strange!
Added by Linda Berney on Jan 22, 2015 8:57 AM
Kathy and Jim Schutt
RE: Mary Ann Colvin Update
I have to add an interesting note. I do have the death certificate for Mary Ann "Polly" Fall. It was Mary Ann Von Schassen. Whoever gave the information said her mother was Mary Howland. Which would have been her grandmother.
Added by Kathy and Jim Schutt on Jan 17, 2015 11:26 AM
Kathy and Jim Schutt
RE: Mary Ann Colvin Update
Hi Carol,

Thanks so much for the info. It looks like 1889 to me but it is very hard to tell. I am on ancestry and half of the family connections say 1889 and the other half 1899. I had Oakland county check 1889 but it wasn't there. I have sent to the state for 1889. It may be a wild goose chase :) Anyway, thanks for the help and I will keep you posted. On ancestry no one shows that she remarried but that doesn't mean a lot.

Added by Kathy and Jim Schutt on Jan 17, 2015 11:23 AM
Cliford Smith
Still searching for information on the elusive Cliford, but I did edit DOD as per your suggestion.
Added by silentarcher99 on Jan 13, 2015 4:28 PM
Kathy and Jim Schutt
Mary Ann Colvin
Hi Carol,

I have noticed with interest that you have listed Antipass Colvin and Mary Howland as Mary Ann's parents on the Find A Grave memorial. This is new information to me and much appreciated. I am going to send to Oakland for her death certificate and am hoping that it also lists her parents. If that were listed I might have proof to the DAR that my 5th great-grandfather Levi Colvin was my ancestor. I see he fought in the American Revolutionary War. I have proof that Jeremiah was Levi's son but need to connect Antipass to him and Mary Ann to Antipass.

Thank you very much,
Kathy Schutt
Added by Kathy and Jim Schutt on Jan 11, 2015 11:11 AM
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