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Carolyn Thomas Sorensen (#46924949)
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Bio Photo Her passion was genealogy, she loved it! For years my mother researched; wrote letters; purchased b/m/d certificates. She was known as a great genealogists by our entire family. The computer was intimidating to her, but daddy always said "There's never been a computer built that could match your mamma's memory." He was right! We kids thought her passion for the dead was silly. Then when my mother-in-law passed away, I realized that my husband's family history went to the grave with her. I started searching for info on my grandfather & an uncle...I got hooked, BIG TIME! Needless to say, mother was thrilled that I was finally interested in genealogy. We'd talk for hours on the phone about this one & that one. Mother wanted me to get everything she had gleaned, entered on the computer. Then 2 months ago I found this website & started entering everyone's data. I'd print the pages & mail them to mother for her proofing & approval. I never dreamed that just two months later I'd be memorializing my mother here. What little bit of work I'd done on FAG before mother passed away was rewarding. However, I found it healing to enter her biography & honor her memory. I'd be thrilled to have you visit my mother's (Wynona Thomas) memorial. Thank you, FAG for this forum to honor our loved ones. In the 2 months I've been entering data here, I've had several volunteers take photos of my loved one's tombstones & share them with me. Thank you all for this wonderful gift. If I can assist anyone with photos, please let me know.

PLEASE do not copy or upload my photos to any other websites. Its copyright infringement, and I do not want my volunteer work given to any for profit sites.
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Alan Barber
RE: Joseph Carter & Elizabeth tomb (memorial #43174664)
Let me first say that there has been some misunderstanding. I completely agree with your desire to limit the information in these public forums to what is firmly documented, or at the very least to what can be reasonably ascertained from the documentation such as it is.

I am also puzzled at your response. In reality, I did not request that you change anything in your memorial. Like you, I am interested in the facts; and so I was merely hoping that you would share the source of your information regarding those additional burials (specifically your ID of Frank as Benjamin Franklin.

Although I cannot attach documents to this message, let me try to better explain the facts (such as they are) in regard to young Frank, and how I know that they are facts. (I am not concerned with "Tressie" or her infant).

1. If you look at the 1830 census, you will see that Joseph & Elizabeth had three sons - one of which must have been born ~1822. And if you look at the 1840 census, you will see that the ages of the male children tell us that that son was no longer with them. Thus it is a fact that there was a son of that age who apparently (almost certainly) died between the age of 8 & 18.

2. I don't know what that son's name was, but my father (who got his info from SOMEWHERE noted that the 4th child was named Frank, that he was born in 1822, and that he never married.

If you do not know how you came by your information, or if you for some reason do not wish to reveal your source or share that information, all you have to do is say so and I will not bother you again.

regards & apologies for any offense taken,
Added by Alan Barber on Nov 05, 2015 4:19 PM
Alan Barber
Joseph Carter & Elizabeth tomb (memorial #43174664)
Perhaps I should explain. Joseph & Elizabeth had a son named Frank - born abt 1822, died after 1830 but before 1840. (Thus he was between 8 & 18 when he died). And given that the nearby Grassy Lick Cemetery did not yet exist, he is the obvious choice for the "Frank" that you mention.

Joseph & Elizabeth also had a son named Benjamin Franklin - born 1841, died sometime after 1870. Benjamin's 1st wife was Tressie; and she was very young when they married. And thus Tressie & infant may have died in childbirth (which would account for those two of the graves mentioned).

Benjamin Franklin Carter began going by the name of "Frank" as an adult (see 1860 census), but it would have been unusual for him to be buried with his 1st wife after having remarried. Also, if it is B.F. rather then the earlier son Frank who is buried there with his mother, then where is Frank buried?

thanks & regards,
Added by Alan Barber on Nov 05, 2015 5:35 AM
Alan Barber
Joseph Carter & Elizabeth tomb (memorial #43174664)

Sorry to bother you, but I wonder if you might be so kind as to share the source of your information regarding the additional burials at the foot of Joseph & Elizabeth's tomb? {"Frank Carter (grandson of Joseph and Elizabeth Scott Carter), Tressie Carpenter (1st wife of Frank), Infant"}

More specifically, I know who "Tressie and infant" were, but I am not sure who Frank was, or if he was a grandson of Joseph & Elizabeth, or was he and that infant one and the same? And if he was a grandson, do you happen to have any information on Joseph & Elizabeth's son Frank (born c. 1822, died after 1830 but before 1840)?

Finally, it is a minor concern, but I see that you copied my typo "as in" regarding Joseph's service as a State Representative in 1844.

regards and thanks,

Added by Alan Barber on Nov 04, 2015 10:26 AM
Alan Barber
Benjamin Frnaklin Carter 43175494 vs. Frank Carter.
You have memorial #43175494 identified as Benjamin Franklin Carter. But there was another brother named Frank born c. 1822 who never married & seems to have left no trace other than his name on this gravesite.

It is only my speculation, but I surmise that Frank died as a child, and that his mother Elizabeth may have wanted him buried close by. (which could explain the odd location of the burial site).

Elizabeth then followed in 1854 (which is probably when the tomb was built). Daughter-in-law Tressie & infant son might then have died in childbirth c. 1862 (which could explain why Benjamin remarried in 1864). And finally Joseph joined them in 1876.

I don't know what became of Benjamin Franklin Carter after (or prior to) his divorce from Dorothy Ellington, but it seems unlikely that this is his grave.

Added by Alan Barber on Nov 02, 2015 10:14 AM
Alan Barber
Joseph Carter 43174664
I recently learned that my 3rd great grandfather served as in the 1844 Ky State Legislature as the representative for Breathitt & Morgan Counties.

I thought it would be nice if a note to that effect were to be added to his memorial.
Added by Alan Barber on Oct 30, 2015 6:32 AM
Alan Barber
mem #43207952 & #35685428
I'm sorry to inform you that your memorial for Benjamin Ford Carter is a duplicate, and was preceded by Judith Finnell's by several months.

I believe that the accepted protocol is for you to remove yours; and I respectfully request and hope that you will graciously do so.

However, I also hope that you will be able to enrich Judith's memorial with the information that you have regarding Benjamin.

Added by Alan Barber on Oct 27, 2015 8:36 AM
Judy Chladek
Hi, Nathaniel Mothershead is also my 5th great grandfather and Elizabeth (Motherhead) Greer is my 4th great grandmother. I have a DAR supplemental for both Nathaniel Motherhead and James Greer. I am a descendant of Sophia Greer. I would love to hear from you :) Judy
Added by Judy Chladek on Oct 26, 2015 1:18 PM
Susan Propst Graben
Texas Lairds
Would you have any information about Elizabeth Laird, the half sister of Robert Franklin Laird's father, Robert Samuel? I have a friend whose DNA is matching the Laird line from MS.
Added by Susan Propst Graben on Oct 11, 2015 5:25 PM
Marvin Nuby Jr.
William Corda Maples -Grave Memorial# 8566798
Thanks so much for your research, he was my GGG grandfather. I live in Madison County Alabama. I am going to look up his tombstone someday. Thanks again, it good to run across distant kin folks that care about family history.

thanks so much,

Marvin Nuby Jr.
Added by Marvin Nuby Jr. on Sep 30, 2015 1:10 PM
Larry Carpenter
please disregard my previkous note
Added by Larry Carpenter on Sep 23, 2015 7:21 AM
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