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Cheryl Ayres (#46935923)
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Grave photos I have taken & any family photos I have shared you have my permission to copy.

I have been burnt many times by a person here & there requesting 100's of memorials because they are remotely related & they are not directly related. This is why I changed & started following the guidelines for direct descendancy. Do you believe that these people will transfer them to their direct descendants? I don't think so, a direct descendant comes along & sees the memorial transferred to another, they won't even bother to request a transfer for they would think that the person who maintains the memorial is a direct descendant. I had one person tell me a horror story of his request for his father's memorial & was denied by a person who was related but remotely because they shared the same surname & this person was doing a one surname genealogy, this is what I would call hoarding & the same goes for relatives requesting a transfer for distant relatives. By only transferring to their direct descendants what better way can you connect to relatives you didn't know you had. A quote from findagrave guidelines "The goal is not to "own" every memorial of those to whom you are related. The ultimate goal should be to have meaningful, accurate memorials that honor those who have passed away, regardless of who created the memorial or who maintains it." I do bend the rules in special circumstances such as infants, relatives that did not marry or had no children or if someone is doing genealogy for a person who is a direct descendant, I also go beyond the 4 generation rule for direct descendancy. I am keeping my memorials in safe keeping until a direct descendant comes along to claim them. I am honoring them by keeping them safe for people who really care about them because they are their ancestor & not just a distant relative. I go way beyond just putting names & dates when creating memorials, I research & give more details then the simple gravestone has by adding maiden names, full birth & death dates, linking family, obituaries,biographies, etc. I too have relatives that I am not a direct descendant of but will gladly transfer them to their descendants when they come along. Please consider my point of view, there is a very good reason why I follow the guidelines. When I have had to decline a transfer I always have responded respectfully to the requester why I declined & my thinking on direct descendancy, they completely understand & commend me for my stand in this matter, of course their are a few who do not & have bullied me into transferring them by mean cruel ways, which is wrong. I respect the rights of others opinions,but you should also respect others points of views. I just wanted to let everyone know why I follow the guidelines. I do hope this gives others to be just a little bit more understanding of why the guidelines were put in place, after all the site originally was suppose to be virtual cemeteries & a source to find burial places for relatives & loved ones & not for maintaining their own family trees. I am a genealogist but do not use this site for my family tree, I have my own personal tree elsewhere where it belongs. I have shared my relatives on this site but as I said before I will transfer them to their descendants. It isn't about hoarding with me, it is about what is the right thing to do.

NOTE: MILITARY SERVICE will be added in the bio line of the memorials. I will not add rank to the name if they did not die in service to their country. All military gravestones when the person dies much later than there service does not have their rank in front of their name, it is after their name, therefore their rank will be in the bio line. I believe in memorializing their full life rather than the short time they served their country. They had lives other than serving their country & military service is but a small part of their lives but should be recognized for putting their lifes at risk to protect our country.

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Thompson Clanin
Cheryl, Thank you, for the information, I corrected the year they were married and his name from Thomas to Thompson, was to Phoebe Brown Hazelbaker Carpenter Clanin's Memorial.
Wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas and a blessed 2015.
Added by Lorraine on Dec 19, 2014 10:43 AM
Thank you for the updates and links for the Eaton's.
Added by Sunshine on Dec 17, 2014 9:41 PM
RE: Re: Alice Caspara Hagen Erickson
Thank you. I have been to a lot of those websites and many more since I am a history student going into archiving.

My main focus isn't the Hagen family. But I am related to them as Johanes Pederson Hagen is my 3rd grand uncle. My main focus is the Fremstad's in the Westby area. However, I mostly finished the tree and I only have one little branch left and the tree is fully completed. :) Almost there!!

So I during my school breaks I branch off and research into other family members such as the Hagen's, the Hanson's and others family as everyone in Westby are pretty much related to see where my tree takes me. It has been interesting.
Added by AJ on Dec 15, 2014 1:04 PM
Re: RE: Re: Alice Caspara Hagen Erickson
Thank you for the correction. Did you by chance find her birth record? I can only find the 1900 census.

Which makes more sense why Alice was not in any of the other census now due to her age.

Thank you for your help especially at this time of night. ha
Added by AJ on Dec 14, 2014 11:42 PM
RE: Re: Alice Caspara Hagen Erickson
Oh good catch!! Thank you for the information.
Added by AJ on Dec 14, 2014 11:10 PM
Had that backwards. I have so many dates running through my head at the moment.

Josie passed away first and Amanda was Carl's second wife. But the children were still with Amanda and not Josie.

Added by AJ on Dec 14, 2014 10:39 PM
Alice Hagen Erickson
How positive are you that she is a daughter of Carl Hagen (#86516128)? Because I have absolutely no record of this Alice out of all the Hagen family members. This one is a mystery. I'm about 98.9% sure she isn't a daughter of Carl and Amanda's and as Carl married Josie after Amanda died she isn't a daughter from Josie's either.

I think she belongs to another Hagen family.

These are the children of Carl and Amanda:
-I'm in the process of fixing what's attached and adding the rest of the children.
Added by AJ on Dec 14, 2014 10:35 PM
Beth Green Lackey
RE: Re: Sarah Harvey IOOF Princeton
Thank you for the link to her headstone pictures
Added by Beth Green Lackey on Dec 12, 2014 5:51 PM
John Sloan
RE: Re: William Dimick IOOF Princeton
Cheryl, Thank you for the link to the photos in Princeton IOOF Cemetery for the Dimick's. Regards John
Added by John Sloan on Dec 12, 2014 12:35 PM
RE: Re: Mary Elizabeth Jones Newland
You are right. Sorry. Yes, Mary Elizabeth Jones and James Newland had Arthur. Jane Martha Jones and Samuel Henry Drummond had Alvin Jones. I got confused when writing you. Easy to do when both sisters lives and deaths were somewhat parallel. I wish we knew where Mary Elizabeth was buried.

My line comes from these Jones girls' brother Ira Jones and his wife Rebecca Brown. Ira was in 27th Ohio Inf. Co. E. Through Civil War pension documents I do have an affidavit from father, John Jones who brilliantly wrote his own birth date, his wife and mother of all his children and listed all of his children. John did say that he and Elizabeth lost a baby early on. I do believe that Ira was their first born or their first born to live.

You have done marvelous work on findagrave and your research. Are you of this line? Do you live close to Gallia County?
Added by SUSIE BURKE on Dec 10, 2014 4:11 AM
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