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Cheryl Ayres (#46935923)
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Grave photos I have taken & any family photos I have shared you have my permission to copy.

I have been burnt many times by a person here & there requesting 100's of memorials because they are remotely related & they are not directly related. This is why I changed & started following the guidelines for direct descendancy. Do you believe that these people will transfer them to their direct descendants? I don't think so, a direct descendant comes along & sees the memorial transferred to another, they won't even bother to request a transfer for they would think that the person who maintains the memorial is a direct descendant. I had one person tell me a horror story of his request for his father's memorial & was denied by a person who was related but remotely because they shared the same surname & this person was doing a one surname genealogy, this is what I would call hoarding & the same goes for relatives requesting a transfer for distant relatives. By only transferring to their direct descendants what better way can you connect to relatives you didn't know you had. A quote from findagrave guidelines "The goal is not to "own" every memorial of those to whom you are related. The ultimate goal should be to have meaningful, accurate memorials that honor those who have passed away, regardless of who created the memorial or who maintains it." I do bend the rules in special circumstances such as infants, relatives that did not marry or had no children or if someone is doing genealogy for a person who is a direct descendant, I also go beyond the 4 generation rule for direct descendancy. I am keeping my memorials in safe keeping until a direct descendant comes along to claim them. I am honoring them by keeping them safe for people who really care about them because they are their ancestor & not just a distant relative. I go way beyond just putting names & dates when creating memorials, I research & give more details then the simple gravestone has by adding maiden names, full birth & death dates, linking family, obituaries,biographies, etc. I too have relatives that I am not a direct descendant of but will gladly transfer them to their descendants when they come along. Please consider my point of view, there is a very good reason why I follow the guidelines. When I have had to decline a transfer I always have responded respectfully to the requester why I declined & my thinking on direct descendancy, they completely understand & commend me for my stand in this matter, of course their are a few who do not & have bullied me into transferring them by mean cruel ways, which is wrong. I respect the rights of others opinions,but you should also respect others points of views. I just wanted to let everyone know why I follow the guidelines. I do hope this gives others to be just a little bit more understanding of why the guidelines were put in place, after all the site originally was suppose to be virtual cemeteries & a source to find burial places for relatives & loved ones & not for maintaining their own family trees. I am a genealogist but do not use this site for my family tree, I have my own personal tree elsewhere where it belongs. I have shared my relatives on this site but as I said before I will transfer them to their descendants. It isn't about hoarding with me, it is about what is the right thing to do.

NOTE: MILITARY SERVICE if requested by immediate family & direct descendants, I will add rank to their name. Civil War Buffs & any other War Buffs please refrain from requesting the rank be added, you are not family & have no personal knowledge of these soldiers. I do not assume to know the wishes of the soldier to add rank to their names, only family have this authority. As a stranger I will however respectfully add it to their bio to honor their service. The only other exception would be career soldiers of which rank will be added to their name.

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Mike Stafford
Elllen Kenyon Stafford
She died in 1884 and can be found in the 1880 Federal Census.
Added by Mike Stafford on Aug 20, 2015 3:33 PM
Jeanie Emerson
Leland Theodore Hartsoch
Find A Grave # 149407771 ---- I recently sent a photo request for this gravesite. I received back an email that says there is no record of this in that cemetery's records.
So, I ask you where you got the information for your Find A Grave entry.
I'm just curious... all I'd like is a photo of his tombstone.
Added by Jeanie Emerson on Aug 16, 2015 8:56 PM
Evelyn Lynch Cochran
Re: RE: Re: Clara (Lynch) Linenberger
To add to confusion;Clarinda was my GGgrandmother and her daughter, Mary E Wilbur was my Ggrandmother which was married to Jeremiah Lynch. David was Jeremiah's uncle.
Added by Evelyn Lynch Cochran on Aug 09, 2015 8:43 PM
Evelyn Lynch Cochran
RE: Re: Clara (Lynch) Linenberger
Thanks. I guess she took the Lynch name from her grandmother, Clarinda and step-grandfather, David Lynch, that raised her. Her mother was Clarinda's daughter, Aletha Wilbur Johnson and her father was William Johnson.
Added by Evelyn Lynch Cochran on Aug 09, 2015 7:58 PM
Evelyn Lynch Cochran
Owensville Cemetery
I would like to know where you found the maiden name, Lynch, for Clara Linnenburger, 136206973, buried in the Owensville Cemetery in Gibson County, Indiana. Thanks for any help that you can give me.
Added by Evelyn Lynch Cochran on Aug 09, 2015 3:42 PM
David Forcade
Regarding Bert H. Bishop
Thank you so much for the added updates and linking Bertie with his family.

God Bless
David Forcade
Added by David Forcade on Aug 08, 2015 3:05 AM
Chris Fox
RE: Re: Mary Miller
Thanks so much for the very rapid reply. I will check those leads. I am only a few hours drive from Longview, so it may be time for a road trip!
Added by Chris Fox on Aug 07, 2015 10:00 AM
Chris Fox
Longview Memorial Park & Mausoleum
Hi Cheryl,

Thank you so much for your recent posting of interments at Longview Memorial Park & Mausoleum in Longview, WA (and the incredible number of other contributions).

What was the source of the list of interments? I am interested because Roy F Miller (Find A Grave Memorial# 149957941), who died at birth, was followed in death by his mother Mary Burns Miller two days later, yet she is not on the list. I would expect her to be buried with him.

Mary Miller is the birth grandmother of a close friend of mine, who I am helping to trace her birth family. Thanks for any info. -Chris Fox
Added by Chris Fox on Aug 07, 2015 8:37 AM
RJ Korbach
RE: Re: Mathias Schmitz
Cheryl - I would be honored to maintain both of these graves. I think I know how to switch Mathias over (change burial) since I am running into instances of cremation where ashes are scattered. I, myself, only recently changed from "burial at seas" to being cremated and buried next to my ancestors. Thank you so much for your help.

Robert Korbach 47923974
Added by RJ Korbach on Aug 06, 2015 7:51 AM
RJ Korbach
RE: Re: Mathias Schmitz St Kilians
Cheryl - This is not meant to bully you but I spent an enjoyable hour talking to Dave Thompson. He admires you as much as you admire him. However:
(1) He did not get information from the sexton but rather a secondary written source which Dave admits has had errors. He also does not do transcriptions on any of his graves.
(2) He has, however, photographed St. Kilian's and has in his notes there is NO STONE NOR IRON CROSS (like Christina's).
(3) My sources are: "History of Bear Valley, Wisconsin" and Robert J. Schmitz, great grandson of Mathias. The former is very clear on when he died (1864) in Johnsburg and when she moved (1867), why she moved, and the land she bought (Next to her brother-in-law, Peter Schmitz)from Fed Deli - north and inclusive of where St. Kilian's was built.
Dave is going to list on his site that there is no formal record of Mathias being buried there nor a tombstone, hence location unknown. I hope, at a minimum, you would also enter such a caveat.
RJ (Bob Korbach) Korbach-Lins-Riek-Schmitz
Added by RJ Korbach on Aug 05, 2015 5:59 PM
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