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Cheryl Ayres (#46935923)
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Bio Photo Grave photos I have taken & any family photos I have shared you have my permission to copy.

I have been burnt many times by a person here & there requesting 100's of memorials because they are remotely related & they are not directly related. This is why I changed & started following the guidelines for direct descendancy. Do you believe that these people will transfer them to their direct descendants? I don't think so, a direct descendant comes along & sees the memorial transferred to another, they won't even bother to request a transfer for they would think that the person who maintains the memorial is a direct descendant. I had one person tell me a horror story of his request for his father's memorial & was denied by a person who was related but remotely because they shared the same surname & this person was doing a one surname genealogy, this is what I would call hoarding & the same goes for relatives requesting a transfer for distant relatives. By only transferring to their direct descendants what better way can you connect to relatives you didn't know you had. A quote from findagrave guidelines "The goal is not to "own" every memorial of those to whom you are related. The ultimate goal should be to have meaningful, accurate memorials that honor those who have passed away, regardless of who created the memorial or who maintains it." I do bend the rules in special circumstances such as infants, relatives that did not marry or had no children or if someone is doing genealogy for a person who is a direct descendant, I also go beyond the 4 generation rule for direct descendancy. I am keeping my memorials in safe keeping until a direct descendant comes along to claim them. I am honoring them by keeping them safe for people who really care about them because they are their ancestor & not just a distant relative. I go way beyond just putting names & dates when creating memorials, I research & give more details then the simple gravestone has by adding maiden names, full birth & death dates, linking family, obituaries,biographies, etc. I too have relatives that I am not a direct descendant of but will gladly transfer them to their descendants when they come along. Please consider my point of view, there is a very good reason why I follow the guidelines. When I have had to decline a transfer I always have responded respectfully to the requester why I declined & my thinking on direct descendancy, they completely understand & commend me for my stand in this matter, of course their are a few who do not & have bullied me into transferring them by mean cruel ways, which is wrong. I respect the rights of others opinions,but you should also respect others points of views. I just wanted to let everyone know why I follow the guidelines. I do hope this gives others to be just a little bit more understanding of why the guidelines were put in place, after all the site originally was suppose to be virtual cemeteries & a source to find burial places for relatives & loved ones & not for maintaining their own family trees. I am a genealogist but do not use this site for my family tree, I have my own personal tree elsewhere where it belongs. I have shared my relatives on this site but as I said before I will transfer them to their descendants. It isn't about hoarding with me, it is about what is the right thing to do.

NOTE: MILITARY SERVICE will be added in the bio line of the memorials. I will not add rank to the name if they did not die in service to their country. All military gravestones when the person dies much later than there service does not have their rank in front of their name, it is after their name, therefore their rank will be in the bio line. I believe in memorializing their full life rather than the short time they served their country. They had lives other than serving their country & military service is but a small part of their lives but should be recognized for putting their lifes at risk to protect our country.

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Irene (Rose) Warner
RE: Re: Drummond, Drummond-Folden
Hi again Cheryl...The Drummond Cemetery is indeed up on a hill. We had to climb through a fence at the road, cross a ravine with tall, wild weeds and then climb up the hill to get to the cemetery.
Added by Irene (Rose) Warner on Aug 31, 2014 5:23 PM
Bob Belville
RE: Re: Albert & Nancy Belville
Thank you so much for the transfer. As you know aunt Addie had eleven siblings. Talk to you soon. Bob
Added by Bob Belville on Aug 31, 2014 2:21 PM
Sharon Leon
Rev. Thomas Webb correction
Thank you for catching that mistake. I set up the memorials from a cemetery transcript that was sent to me from the genealogy collection in the library in Logan. I'll check to see if the wrong death date I had for him was my mistake or a mistake on the cemetery transcript. Sharon
Added by Sharon Leon on Aug 31, 2014 12:13 PM
Irene (Rose) Warner
Drummond, Drummond-Folden
Both cemeteries are accessible from Peter's Cave road.
Drummond-Folden cemetery requires an ATV to get through the woods to it - you have to go through Watson's property (off Peter's Cave Rd), or can go back onto 775 and travel through the back of Harold Proven's old place.
Drummond Cemetery is at the intersection of Lincoln & Peter's Cave. It sets on a knoll between Clyde Elliott's farm and Donald Barlow's farm. Not sure which one of them owns the property. You have to climb the pasture field to get up to the cemetery.
I have found several of the death certificates in the area to be incorrect but her obit states she was buried in the Drummond Cemetery. There is a little boy buried at the Neal Cemetery but his death certificate says he is in the Drummond-Folden cemetery. I have never been to the Drummond-Folden cemetery; I could not get up the terrain with my bad hip. I photographed the little boy's stone when I did the Neal Cemetery at Mudsoc.
Added by Irene (Rose) Warner on Aug 30, 2014 8:36 PM
Irene (Rose) Warner
RE: Celena Tipton
I found her obit in the Gallipolis Bulletin. She is in the Drummond Cemetery on Peter's Cave Rd.
Added by Irene (Rose) Warner on Aug 30, 2014 10:18 AM
Irene (Rose) Warner
selind tipton
I have her buried in the Drummond Cemetery...per her death certificate but I was not able to locate a stone for her. I am confused....Contact me:
Added by Irene (Rose) Warner on Aug 29, 2014 5:30 PM
Mary Rucker
I find it interesting that you made a whole new memorial to point out a possible error. Would it not have been more appropriate to use the edit tab for Selena Clestina Drummond Tipton Memorial# 106826622 and contact that person directly? Just saying.
Added by Mary Rucker on Aug 28, 2014 9:03 PM
Johnny James
Clara Parduhn
Sorry about that and I knew better (just have 100's of entries - time to walk away from the computer for a few) - that is one thing BAD about Find A Grave it is not a two-way street when linking parents with children. I will contact the right person. The sames for linking spouses, under Edits when providing notice to link a spouse (the system is smart enough for those who think they must add the same link in the opposite spouse)the other 1/2 many times does not reverse link - perhaps a hole in the software (and I base this on rechecking upto 30 days later). Go figure.

Added by Johnny James on Aug 22, 2014 10:18 AM
Botcher spouse link
It was not a computer glitch. I received incorrect information. I found the original request from Dec. 10, 2013:


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Added by Keith on Aug 19, 2014 11:14 PM
Botcher spouse link
I deleted the link. Most likely a computer glitch.
Added by Keith on Aug 19, 2014 10:42 PM
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