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history4sure (#46997739)
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Bio Photo I am willing to transfer any memorials which are not my ancestors or relatives and will try to help anyone with information or research. I think it is important to identify persons, when possible, so we can know who they are and who their families are, for historical and personal reasons.
2015 Update:
Sixty six years ago I started looking for lost graves as Grandma sent me, at age 8, to find "the indention by the pine tree, near great great grandpa's headstone" so she could place flowers where a baby was buried in 1869 with no "marker". From her, I learned to look for that tiny "frosted" spot when the night before had been chilly (the ground is still warmer at a burial site which has no vault, even after 100's of years!)
I first knew grief when Grandma died, 59 years ago. To honor her, I began genealogy research from her precious family records. Fifty four years ago the death of my young first husband, at the hands of robbers, nearly caused the loss of my first unborn child. Years later, a miscarriage took another son and now, for the past 30 years, we have also grieved for our youngest son, lost to a freak accident. Brad
Writing personal histories has been a passion for nearly 40 years, since I found my relationship to Mormon Battalion soldiers and an early U.S. President.
Being an unpaid cemetery sexton for the past 24 years has required mapping and recording (handwritten) of over 3,000 birth & death locations and overseeing burials and settings of gravestones for some 750 persons. During this time, the birth and death records from 1854 at one cemetery and from 1869 to date, at another, were located and recorded; exact grave locations had never been written down for 155 years! I'm still hand drawing family lot maps for the latter cemetery for all owners.
For about 30 years, I have composed poetry and short stories about loved ones' passing, both for my own and others.
So, am I a "graver" ?, a "griever", a "genealogist", a "historian", a "sexton", a "poet" or just kind of "nutty"?? (We ALL could have, instead of this, been lounging on "sum beach sum where", ya know!)
Anyway, I feel sad when an unkind remark is posted, or it is stated that Find a Grave was designed for one purpose and that "newcomers", who want to use it for genealogy, or some other reason than it was originally intended, should go elsewhere. I hope it is intended to help us all find burial locations, which should include photos, dates, and family links, if possible for proper identification.
Short bios also help identify specific individuals and search data sources can help us verify the positive location. That is why I believe that a gravestone, with poor or misinterpreted information, should be supplemented with the best historical facts available, if possible. After all, it is Find a Grave, not "Find a Stone". Sometimes, nothing else is available, but that is a sad case; unknown, with unknown dates does not tell us much, especially when there is no stone or it is illegible.
I hope to help & will gladly transfer, edit, delete or correct anything I contribute; I'm slow, but I'm OLD, please have patience!


Suprise! Thanks so much to Renee for the Sponsorship of Our Sweet Rose...what an honor to be cared for by such a dedicated animal lover.

I am grateful AGAIN to Love Always, Renee for the sponsorship of my beloved Daddy - what a generous contributor she is...check out her loving memorials!


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Hi Shirleen !
I want to Thank you for Managing the Memorial of Jonathan H. Allen (1750 - 1836) !

He was my Great Great Great Great Great Grand Father.

You and I must be distant cousins ?

Have a Great Day !

Sincerely, Nate :)
Added by RememberingAncestors on Mar 03, 2015 3:09 PM
Dennis Allen
RE: Allens
I'll take the transfer of Charles (my ID#46933331). Thanks. I'll make the links to Noble & Minerva, but will add a note stating my reason for doing so.

I suspect a lot of Allens are in Dixon, including Noble (Minerva is in Plummer), Charles wife Mary Jane, and my 4th great grandparents Ira Allen & Laura Palmer. I also think there are also more related Johnsons, Erwins, Sloans, and Barretts in Dixon. If only we could find more detailed sexton records. Oh well, thanks again.
Added by Dennis Allen on Mar 02, 2015 7:36 PM
Dennis Allen
RE: Allens, Dixon Cemetery
Well, here's my deductions: 1850 Norfolk census has Charles S. Allen with parents Noble & Minerva. 1860 Madrid census has Smith Allen with parents Noble & Minerva and sister Annetta Allen. 1870 Madrid census has Charles Allen, sister Janett Allen, wife Jane E Allen, children Ida & Emery Allen. 1880 Madrid census has Charles S Allen, wife Mary Jane Allen, children Ida M, Charles E, & Laury E Allen. I deduced that Charles S Allen/Smith Allen is the same person, Annetta Allen/Janett Allen is the same person, Jane E Allen/Mary Jane is the same person, and Emery Allen/Charles E Allen is the same person.

If you look at, the Charles Allen in Dixon lived in 1890 Madrid. 1890 Veterans schedule lists Charles Allen 92 NY. in 1890 Madrid. The only Charles Allen I know in Madrid at that time is the husband of Mary Jane and the son of Noble & Minerva.

Not to be confused with Charles Allen, born Aug 21, 1842 Virginia, died Sept 10, 1910 Mississippi. Some family trees list son of Noble & Minerva as Charles S Allen, born Aug 5, 1841 Paris, Oneida, NY, died Jul 23, 1922 Geneva, Nebraska, who married Eliza Caroline Rider. But that Charles S Allen is in 1880/1900/1910 Fillmore, Nebraska census. Plus why would Noble & Minerva move from St. Lawrence to Oneida and back just to have a child?

You're right, I don't have 100% proof the Charles Allen in Dixon is the son of Noble & Minerva. Haven't been able to find Charle's obit yet. Don't know what happened to wife Mary Jane, so don't if she remarried or when she died. But given his stone location in Dixon, Charles got to be a close Allen relation. But if you want to wait for definite proof before approving the links, I understand...Dennis
Added by Dennis Allen on Mar 02, 2015 5:39 PM
Becci Hartsock
Cheyenne Autumn Haines

Thank you for the flower to my Daughter, Chey. It's so hard, but then you know, to never hold them again. God Bless you....
Added by Becci Hartsock on Mar 01, 2015 4:36 PM
Michael Christopher Lapworth-Wright
Hi Shirleen

Thank you so much for visiting our little Michael Christopher on his birth/angel day. It's so good of you to take the time to stop by.

God bless
Added by Legsie11 on Mar 01, 2015 2:55 PM
Susan-HCBAR Historic Cemetery Preservation-SRP
your Rosie
I read your page on Rosie on a regular basis now. We do not have pets, but to satisfy my need for dachshund therapy I babysit three mini's down the street. (2 years now) I call it "rent-a-pup". The owners call me their puppies' grandma. Sometimes I borrow them for therapy. Sometimes I keep them for several days at their home while their owners are away. It's a win/win. They don't have to be carted off or stay in a puppy hotel anymore. Winnie, her son P.J., and P.J.'s girlfriend Lilly. Those are my mini grandpups.
Added by Susan-HCBAR Historic Ceme... on Mar 01, 2015 9:17 AM
Kristi L. Jones
Thank you!
Thank you for all your comments and flower tokens posted for my family. They are so very much appreciated! I especially thank you for the most thoughtful comment Iíve seen in a long whileÖ When I saw the song lyrics you left for my sisterís favorite song, it brought me to tears - good ones. It touched my heart so deeply that you were so attentive to those details and creative in applying them so lovingly. Thatís something my sister did so well, too, and Iíve missed it. Thank you, sweetness!

Added by Kristi L. Jones on Mar 01, 2015 12:03 AM
Okie in Oregon
Louis Markes
Thank you for catching this mistake on my part. I check b/4 I enter but I must have forgotten. Thank you again.
Added by Okie in Oregon on Feb 27, 2015 1:38 AM
I just saw the edits you had entered. I went ahead and approved them but now I hope those and the changes that you sent directly merge ok. If there are corrections to make, let me know, I'll gladly make them. If this is your family and you would like to manage any of the memorials, please do let me know, I'll happily transfer over to you. Thanks Shirleen.
Added by bluebanana on Feb 26, 2015 11:23 PM
RE: Edits
Great info, entered everything you sent . . .I believe. Double check and let me know if there are any corrections I should make! Thanks.
Added by bluebanana on Feb 26, 2015 10:27 PM
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