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pamela west (#47015463)
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I've been doing my family's genealogy for only a few years; I am thoroughly immersed in the hobby. I have been the most grateful recipient of volunteer photos on this site, and would like to pay back the kindness I have received by helping others if I can.

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CatheaC
Oren Downs
Found this on family search - Ora Sherman was the son of Oren Down and Lucy unless he had a brother of the same name. This is Oren and Lucy's son's marriage record. But to answer your question - if you could find the marriage record it SHOULD show 1st or 2nd marriage - most of them did.

Name: Ora Sherman Downs
Event Type: Marriage Registration
Event Date: 31 May 1924
Event Place: Bartholomew, Indiana, United States
Residence Place: Columbus, , Indiana
Gender: Male
Age (Estimated): 26
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Number of Previous Marriages:
Birth Date: 05 Jun 1898
Birthplace: , Johnson,
Marriage License Date: 31 May 1924
Marriage Place: Bartholomew, Indiana
Father's Name: Oren Downs
Mother's Name: Lucy Olmstead
Spouse's Name: Geraldine Loucile Cook
Spouse's Residence Place: Columbus, ,
Spouse's Residence City: Columbus
Spouse's Residence County:
Spouse's Residence State:
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age (Estimated): 18
Spouse's Previous Marriage Number:
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Race (Original): White
Spouse's Birth Date: 22 Dec 1906
Spouse's Birthplace: , Shelby,
Spouse's Father's Name: Harvey Cook
Spouse's Mother's Name: Maud Heck
Officiator's Name: H E Wilson
Informant's Name:
Additional Name:
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Page: 132
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GS Film Number: 001940353
Digital Folder Number: 004200282
Image Number: 00179
Last Image Number:
Number of Images: 1

Added by CatheaC on Aug 15, 2016 8:31 AM
Janet Elliott Douglas
RE: Mabel K. Hillyard Shannon
Please give photo credits to Daniel Elliott. He shares his photos as long as you do not charge or try to make a profit from the pictures.
Added by Janet Elliott Douglas on Aug 12, 2016 6:45 PM
Janet Elliott Douglas
RE: Shannon stone
Just credit it to Daniel Elliott
Added by Janet Elliott Douglas on Aug 12, 2016 6:43 PM
Mark McCrady
RE: Herbert Disney
Pamela,
Since you have told me that you are researching your family in Johnson County, I have a couple of suggestions that may help, If you are unaware of them.
Over a year ago, myself, and my cousin Cathea Curry began working with Lois Johnson, who is the coordinator of the Johnson County Gen Web site to add obituaries from pre 1900 and early 1900 from Johnson County newspapers from that period. I began going to the State Library and page by page going through the old papers gleaning out obituaries and death announcements. Most of these papers aren't available online, or only certain years. I started with the earliest papers, and have gotten through every page of every issue before 1900. I have gleaned thousands of names. Once I find these, I scan the pages onto a drive, then forward them to my cousin who transcribes and types them into a program, then they are sent to Lois to add to her website. Many hundreds have already been added but because Lois is only one person, she can't add them as fast as I find them so there is a gap. But some of your relatives may already be up on it, and if not, may be in the future. The link is http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~injohnso/johnson.html. This is the home page, then click on obituaries, and then to the Letter of your relative. Check back often because Lois is adding them daily. The project is ongoing. We have already completed every issue available of the Franklin Democrat, and many of the smaller older papers going back to the 1840s.
My next suggestion that may help is before you come and walk around looking for them in cems here, my books will give an exact location of that person as long as they have a stone that was read in any of the readings done in these cemeteries. I would be happy to look in the books and tell you where they are to save you from walking all over looking if you would like, and give you a location for them. I also have access to the Johnson County papers through the library and would be happy to search for obits, too if that would help. I am retired and this is my retirement job now and I am always happy to help in any way. Lois also has extensive family from Johnson County and is a wealth of information so it could be that you and her have some of the same family. You can contact her at her email, lebjohnson@mac.com.

Mark

Added by Mark McCrady on Aug 10, 2016 6:59 PM
Mark McCrady
RE: Herbert Disney
Hi, Pamela.

The Indiana Death Certificates are both a good thing and bad. The good is now someone such as yourself can find a relatives burial place. The bad thing is that if that person had no stone then no photo can be had, and also in the case of Greenlawn where the original burial books were lost in the flood, the cemetery now no longer knows where that person is buried in the cemetery. There are books that were done by the Johnson County Museum of History in 1999-2000 of every known cemetery in the county. All the stones that could be read in each cemetery was recorded and put in these books. Of course unmarked graves aren't included. For the most part, if you find someone on the Indiana Death Certificates, and they are buried in a Johnson County Cemetery, and they are not up on Find a Grave, then they had no stone, or the stone was too eroded to be read. The sexton at Greenlawn explained to me that in the 1800s and into the early 1900s, many people could not afford a stone or marker so there are many many unmarked graves. When they had the original burial books, they knew where that person was in the cemetery because it was recorded. Once the books were lost, all that was lost too. They had to physically go out and read every stone that could be read to compile records of who was there, and of course if no stone was there or it was eroded and unreadable, then they no longer have any record of that person. It is really a shame that these valuable books were not kept off site in a safe place. I have been in most every Johnson County Cemetery over the last few years, and most all do not have an onsite office, or the original burial books. The 2 that do that I'm aware of are Greenwood and Rest Haven. I have actually looked at the books for Greenwood, and it is really awesome to see original death recordings that were made in the 1880, and view the handwriting of who ever the sexton was at that time, and touch the actual book and pages that they touched when they were recording these deaths. I stressed to the sexton there that these books should be kept someplace safe as they could be lost in a fire of tornado. They should at the very least be scanned and kept on a disc or cloud so the information is still available. Sorry for the long winded reply. I just wanted you to know why it may be difficult to find a relative from that time period if they couldn't afford a stone.

Have a great day
Mark
Added by Mark McCrady on Aug 09, 2016 3:32 PM
CatheaC
RE: Mary E. Downs memorial
Ok - done - i deleted Jacob's and Mary's and sent you an edit request to put the full death date add the obit to Mary's memorial and take down your comment about there being a duplicate. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
Added by CatheaC on Aug 08, 2016 12:56 PM
Vern-O
RE: Dunn stones
Glad I could help you out! You may use those photos in any way you see fit!
Added by Vern-O on Aug 02, 2016 2:12 AM
Shawdau
Sorry for Quality
Sorry for poor quality of Lureny Rezner's photo - didn't know it was a request. I'll try to get a better copy of it to put up - add to my list!
Added by Shawdau on Jul 29, 2016 7:28 PM
Dan Ryan
RE: Dale Swanson transfer
Welcome.
Added by Dan Ryan on Jul 20, 2016 7:53 AM
Shawdau
Transferred
You asked me to attach parents (?) to this memorial or transfer it to you. I'm a "little" behind right now. I just got back from vacation. After I finish tonight, I'll only have about 20 more changes to make - thank you for your help!
Added by Shawdau on Jul 18, 2016 8:38 PM
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