|Leo J. Offerman (#47250593)|
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As a newcomer to findagrave.com, I have found it very interesting and what a great way to remember loved ones. Look forward to memorializing as many of my relatives as I can.|
It's kinda sad to walk through the cemeteries and see so many headstones with little or no inscription left, or the headstones have fallen over, are broken or completely gone. We need to record as much information as possible before it's gone forever.
I don't have a problem with you using any of the photos I take and post to your memorials for your other family history projects, just ask. If your going to use them for profit, then there is a problem.
It's amazing how a few people say that it's not about the number game when asked to have your relatives transfered to you and they refuse. If it's not so, then why don't they honor your request? I understood it's about helping others with their family history, but apparently that's not so !!!
When entering memorials, please check for correct dates and spelling of names to avoid creating duplicates...
Don't think of them as gone away
their journey's just begun
life holds so many facets
this earth is only one
Just think of them as resting
from the sorrows and the tears
in a place of warmth and comfort
where there are no days or years
Think of how they must be wishing
that we could know today
how nothing but our sadness
can really pass away
And think of them as living
in the hearts of those they touched
for nothing loved is ever lost
and they were loved so much !!!!
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|BJ||RE: Offerman Transfers|
No problem...will transfer any other's that fit in your line...
Added by BJ on Dec 10, 2016 11:49 AM
|BJ||RE: Offerman Transfers|
That's great....except for the elder Nicholas son...everyone is connected...
Knew you had nailed the right Maria...when she died in New Market....Sebastian Offerman was there at that time...
Maria must have married either in Iowa or SD...as her marriage record doesn't show up in the MN marriage records....guessing, she married in SD...as her husband's family was there...
If we get to the MN Historical society...will see, if I can track down any obits...
Peter Hoffelt (Son of Maria Offerman Hoffelt) used to run a bar on Robert Street in St. Paul...
Used to drive down Wabasha (where Maria lived)...when I went to work...
Have been to the St. Nicholas Cemetery in New Market...
You've done very well...connecting your roots...
Added by BJ on Dec 05, 2016 3:34 PM
|Kathy & Jerry Strickland||RE: Peter Hoffelt|
I do not have any more than you can find on ancestry. Com or family search. Would you like it transferred to you
|Patti||Gladys & Carl Exster|
Thanks so much for taking photos of Gladys and Carl Exster's gravestones. These are the children of my great-uncle Julius who is buried in the same plot.
Added by Patti on Dec 05, 2016 2:03 PM
|BJ||RE: Offerman Transfers|
Your very welcome....good catch on Maria...she fits into the puzzle perfectly...
I found a death notice for her...very limited...have added to her memorial...if you'd like to type it in...let me know....and will remove the article...
I did find a picture of Maria on ancestry...have sent a request to the owner...to add it to her memorial...sometimes that works...
It does appear...there was also a Nicholas Offerman born abt. 1838 in the family...at least according to the 1860 census....
My ancestor line has a Nicholas and Nicolaus in the same family....they both ended be called "Nicholas" here in the USA....
Added by BJ on Dec 04, 2016 6:10 PM
That's what I found about her...looked again at the 1860 census...she is living with Sebastian and family in Dubuque county Iowa...but, she is listed as a "servant"...wondering if Maria and the youngest Nicolas might be a niece or nephew..? Can't ay, I've ever seen a child listed as a servant on a census...
That would explain the death certificate listing her father as:
23 Oct 1921
Waterloo, Black Hawk, Iowa, United States
Event Place (Original)
Birth Year (Estimated)
Added by BJ on Nov 23, 2016 6:26 PM
Glad to help...no known relation to the Offerman line...but, have a strong ancestral line in Faribault...so who knows...Ha..HA..
Found it interesting that Sebastain & Matthias & families were buried at the (Irish) Catholic Calvary cemetery....rather than the (German) Catholic St. Lawrence Cemetery....where most of the "Offerman's" are buried...
Strongly suspect that Sebastian Offerman's daughter (Maria) is this lady: Mary A (Offerman) Burger
BIRTH 10 JAN 1841 • Germany
DEATH 23 OCT 1921 • Waterloo, Black Hawk, Iowa
Finda Grave Memorial # 59088596
Mary Burger's death certificate lists Anton Hoffman as her father....informant was her son...since he spelled her maiden name wrong...guessing he got that wrong...?
Maybe an obit for her would give an answer...?
Added by BJ on Nov 22, 2016 8:42 AM
We were in the area and stopped in Faribault...checked the county records...there was a listing for Sebastian Offerman...but, none for his wife Catherine....kind of thinking, she probably died in a different county...
Checked the library for obits for Sebastian & his wife...none found...
Stopped at Calvary Cemetery...and according to the office records, Sebastian, Catherine, Matthias, Anna & an infant are buried there....
There is a "Offerman" memorial stone...but, no foot stones...have added pictures of the memorial to finda grave...
Matthias Offerman apparently owned a shoe store in Faribault...
Hope this helps..
Added by BJ on Nov 18, 2016 10:00 PM
|Dick Offerman||Minnesota Offermans|
Hi Leo, Not sure if I missed some sort of protocol but I see BJ responded to you but not me. BJ didn't mention where all the info posted for Sebastian and Katharina came from but there are some incorrect dates and no mention of Maria Offerman Hoffelt. I question BJ's burial location of Sebastian and wonder if they don't lie near New Market where Mary is buried with her husband Peter Hoffelt. Is BJ's cemetery listing with the badly mispelled Offerman a burial doc from Calvary Cem? BJ didn't provide info on sources. Originally I contacted him because I was curious about the Ship List which had no John but did have a first Offerman listng that looks like a Paul. I also have Johann's DOB as 1830 but Mathew was born in 1840, not 1830. The obit BJ used says he died in 1898 at 58 years old. Are you familiar with Dalby's Database? BJ's info reads like it is from that source. But I am curious about the where the other info like Sab's wedding info came from. Dick Offerman
Next time we are in Faribault...will look for a death record and see if there is an obit...
Have added some information to Sebastian Offerman's memorial # 172734304
Looks like Sebastain & family settled initially in
Dubuque, Iowa for 7 years...before coming to Faribault, MN. So...makes sense, that his son,John # 53582345, married and remained there...
We pretty much covered the St. Lawrence Cemetery in Faribault...recorded all the "Offerman's" we could find...
Strongly suspect Sebastian & wife are in the Calvary Cemetery...just outside of Faribault...
Guess there is a lone tombstone with the name..."Offerman" on it...might try to see, if there are some foot stones covered with grass...foot stones really seem to sink in the area....found that out at the St. Lawrence Cemetery..depends on the weather....if we are able to do that...
Would think the "Offerman's" buried at St. Anthony Cemetery in Minneapolis (# 71489233) are connected...but, haven't found a connection...
Added by BJ on Nov 15, 2016 9:50 AM
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