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In looking at Hinshaw's Quaker Records, Volume 1, the early meetings of Perquimans and Pasquotank Meetings were held in homes rather than in meeting houses. A lot of names carried from one meeting to another.
I looked at these two meetings and there were Hills listed in Pasquotank MM dating back to 1737. Perquimans list Phelps back around the same time.
There are a few Quaker cemeteries around here where the tombstones gone and the burial record is lost, and the only way to reconstruct a burial listing would be through the Meeting records. Hinshaw's records are such a valuable resource - not only for the birth, death and meeting records - but each meeting gives a historical account of its evolution to set down. I'd suggest if you don't have Hinshaw's abstracts (and Indiana abstracts by WIllard Heiss if you have Indiana connections) - then start monitoring Amazon to purchase them. Even though I have the CD - I'm an old school book researcher and prefer the book over the CD - but it took me several years to get all of Hinshaw's volumes (I still don't have all of Heiss abstracts).
|pjk999pjk||RE: Demaris White|
FYI - just ran across this on Damaris #1
Thomas Gardner, immigrant ancestor, was born about 1692 .........
He married (first) probably Margaret ____, who united with the First Church in Salem in 1639. He married (second) Damaris Shattuck, widow, who was admitted to the First Church in 1641. She had several children by her first husband. She was a Quaker and was before the court several times for attending their meetings, and for absence at her own church, and was fined for the offence. She died Nov. 28, 1674.
Thomas Gardner died Dec. 29, 1674, and was buried in the Gardner burying ground, by the side of a "young tree" which he had chosen as his resting place. His will was dated Dec. 7, 1668, and proved March 29, 1675.
Okay, There is a memorial on findagrave for Damaris #1 - # 35748611. So this is really getting interesting - a Quaker living in Salem during the witch trials in Puritan Massachusetts that had been fined for attending Quaker meetings and having some connection with the Pope according to the memorial..... this should be some interesting reading over the next few weeks.
|pjk999pjk||RE: Demaris White|
Why, thank you Jan! I was going to create one for Damaris myself, but couldn't get to the library to research for her last marriage and burial location till next week. Its always a pleasure to accept management of my ancestor's memorials whenever possible. Since you have already done a lot of work on Henry's (and it predates Damaris' memorial), if you'd like to transfer Damaris' memorial - I'll gladly accept it.
I learned a bit off that research I did too from the one doc that said Damaris and Isacc were asked to leave town - I wonder if it was a kind way of saying they were either run out of Boston / Salem for being of the Quaker faith, for threat of imprisonment, death0 or tarred and feathered for being Quakers. That was such a brutal time for Quakers back then.
I've not done a memorial for Damaris Shattuck (nee Hopkins or Sibley). All the recent research I find indicate the early research was severely flawed and it was hard for descendants now to determine the lineage because of this. On this family - I've even gone to used book stores in the witchcraft section looking for books with genealogical information on the Shattucks of Salem (found a couple too). And yes, some shoppers looked at me kind of funny for reading books in that section - but oh well - hehehehe. At some point - I'd like to find out if Damaris #1 is a Hopkins or Sibley (and I may never know).
I thought I had a link to further info on Isaac & Damaris' marriage certificate saved, but can't locate it now. I've had to uninstall and reinstall IE several times and I cant remember if I had saved my bookmarks (moved on from IE a long time ago).
I grew up in a rural Quaker community and mom is of the Quaker faith. I enjoy going to the local Quaker burying grounds to take photos and enter memorials for those who are in unmarked graves (most cemeteries are still active around here and I can gain access to their burial books). You might try contacting the North Carolina Yearly Meeting to see if the burial book is still known to exist (or if they can refer you to a Quaker document repository). Quakers were just as obsessive about documenting burials as they were entering the birth and death records and meeting minutes.
Are you descended from Henry and Damaris?
My ancestor through Henry and Damaris is Hope White Jessup (memorial # 65698120) - great granddaughter of Henry and Damaris (and my 4th great grandmother). Leave virtual flowers for her and Pratt if you'd like.
|pjk999pjk||RE: Demaris White|
Thank you for your reply - I was just wanting to give you some additional information.
Isaac Page appears in Pasquotank Monthly Meeting, Pasquotank County, North Carolina. His death appears on page 112 of the meeting’s birth and death records and his will is abstracted in the Meeting’s history on page 91 which lists Damaris Moris (Hinshaw abstracts, Volume 1, North Carolina).
Isaac Page and Damaris Shattuck were married in Boston, Massachusetts.
PAGE: Isaac Pag was marryed to Damaris SHATTOCK 30. 7. 1653, pr. Mr. William Hibbins.
Damaris Shattuck, daughter of Damaris. I’ve seen references of her maiden name as “Hopkins” and a year or so ago I seen records with her last name listed as “Sibley”. Damaris, Jr., father’s name is unknown to me at this time. He purportedly died in England which is prompted the family’s migration to Massachusetts. Information I have seen indicate they were Quakers. A lot I am going off of memory as my paper notes aren’t scanned yet and entered in my database yet. I have not found who Isaac Page’s were yet.
I am also aware of the four Quakers (the Boston Martyrs) who were hung for their religious beliefs. As far as Isaac Page and Damaris Shattuck being Quakers – I have found several documents referencing they were Quakers beyond Isaac being listed in Pasquotank Monthly Meeting.
http://pages.suddenlink.net/phelpsdna/Southern_Phelps_Research/NorthCarolina/HannahBaskelPhelpsbyBjorkman.PDF – see bottom of typewritten page 293.
http://pages.suddenlink.net/phelpsdna/Southern_Phelps_Research/NorthCarolina/HannahBaskelPhelpsbyBjorkman.PDF - This link mirrors the some of the information I have and has additional info above what I have (note Damaris’ last name is listed as Sibley).
|Nancy Johnson||Elsie Estelle Baker|
Could you please find Morgan N. Baker (Shorty's) wife in this cemetery and put the info on find a grave. She is buried right next to him.
It would be greatly appreciated.
Nancy Johnson for Barbara May Garner
|Bear Hugs||RE: Alice Gerhardt Hunt|
What a tragic situation. Some people's lives were/are incredibly difficult.
|Bear Hugs||RE: Alice Potter Hunt|
I understand from the cemetery employees that that section of the cemetery was for people with low incomes and the records, unfortunately, were not well maintained in those long ago years.
I've found in some cemetery records the name on the record was that of the person purchasing the plot and not the name of the deceased.
We stared long and hard at that little brass plate and were unable to decipher anything. It wasn't engraved as the surface was smooth to the touch.
Let me know, if at some point, you would like me to delete any of the photos.
|Bear Hugs||RE: Memorial # 64615488|
The cemetery staff came to the conclusion it was either the unmarked "rectangle" or the headstone with the illegible plaque. I added all three photos to assist anyone looking for the final resting place to be able to find the correct "area". I can delete all the photos if that is your preference.
Thank you for the kind words - they are appreciated.
Alvin Hunt- Clayton Cemetery
Would you please remove the obit on this memorial. I have added the pertinent info so it is not needed.
|Anne Scholz ||Baker-May Connection|
I am hoping you have information about the Baker family related to the May family. I am Baker related but this seems to be a part of my line as well. I would very much like to talk with you.
I am Anne Scholz at firstname.lastname@example.org.
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