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I try my best to take quality close-up shots. I originally found this website by accident and immediately was able to find the grave photos of my third great-grandparents in upstate New York--I was really grateful that someone I never met thoughtfully took the time to create their memorials with photos. Now I'm just paying it forward.
Please note that Missouri Death Certificates (through 1965) can be found free online at: http://s1.sos.mo.gov/records/archives/archivesdb/deathcertificates/#searchDB
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|D. Gould Hall||Transfer|
Thank you for the transfer of Ruth Hogue's memorial.
|Judy Robson Stark West||Andrew Nordquist|
I noticed on Andrew's memorial you made a notation about his third child Olga. I believe that is correct as I am researching Olga but was curious as to your source for your notation.Just checking and double checking my info.
Judy West in Texas
I am trying to find out how Miss Songer was related to my great-grandfather Lyman T. Songer. Can anyone help me?
Added by Helton on Jun 29, 2016 1:39 AM
|Patty McKinley||RE: Hiram Feigh #130527184|
Thank you for the information on the link for Hiram. With all the research youíve done, Iím sure youíve seen cases where family information is wrong, even on death records.
Iím proposing that the name ďHiramĒ on the death record, for Hiram Feighís dad, is incorrect.
Although Hiram Feigh never appears on the census with his dad, Conrad (his dad died when Hiram was four), if you consider the information about the rest of the family (their moves from state to state, and their references to each other), it becomes apparent that Hiramís dad is not named Hiram.
Two other things you can factor in. One, this is a ďyours, mine, and oursĒ situation, and two, the various spellings of their last name complicate things, but more on that later.
In 1852 Conrad Feigh/Feek, in Pennsylvania, married his first wife, and in 1853 they had a son, Annias.
About 1855, Conradís first wife died, and Conrad re-marries in 1857, to Delilah Shoemaker (again in Pennsylvania).
In 1858 they have a daughter Mary Elizabeth.
On the 1860 Census, in Pennsylvania, you see listed Conrad, Delilah, Annias 7, and Mary Elizabeth 1 (sheís probably actually about 21 months).
In July 1860 (but too late for the June 1860 census), Conrad and Delilah have another son, Hiram Wilson Feigh. Then in April 1962, they have another son John C. Feigh/Feek.
In the fall of 1862, Conrad joins the military and goes away for a couple of years.
He died in the fall of 1864 at a military hospital near Washington, D. C.
In January 1865, Delilah files for her Widowís Pension.
Later that year, Delilah takes her step-son (Annias) and her three kids (Mary, Hiram, and John) to McLean County, Illinois, to live with her sister.
A couple of years later, Delilah marries Alfred P Howell in McLean County, Illinois (21 Nov 1867).
The document literally says Alfred P Howell and Delilah FEEK (go figure).
Alfred Howell had a farm in neighboring Ford County, Illinois, so the family moved there.
There is a document on Fold3, dated 9 Dec 1869, that is part of the Conradís pension file for the minor children (anyone under 16). The three younger kids are listed, and at the time Mary was 11, Hiram was 9, and John was 7.
Iím sure you know that when someone filed for a Civil War pension, they worked through a local lawyer. The lawyer on the document for the Minorís Pension was John McNulta of Bloomington, McLean, Illinois.
John McNulta had been a brevet brigadier general during the Civil War, and after the war he was a lawyer, served a term as an Illinois State Senator, and was in the US Congress in the 1870ís. Many years later, one of his daughters donated a bunch of his stuff to the McLean County Historical Society.
On the 1870 Census, in Dix, Ford County, Illinois, you see listed, Alfred, Delilah, Mary 11, Hiram 10, John 8, and George Howell 3m. (Annias is out on his own).
In 1875 Alfred sells his farm in Ford County, and within a few years, the family moves to Montgomery County, Kansas.
Annias though, stayed in Ford County, Illinois. He gets married in 1889, and raises a family in Ford County. Heís on the census there in 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930, and is buried there in 1934 (Drummer Township Cemetery)
On the 1880 Census, in Caney, Montgomery, Kansas, you see listed Alfred, Delilah, Hiram 19, John 18 and George Howell 10.
On 10 Jun 1885, Hiram and his wife have a son, John Wilson Feigh (first name apparently named for his brother).
On the 1885 STATE Census, in Caney, Montgomery, Kansas, you see listed Alfred, Delila, John Fieg 22, George Howell 15.
In 1892, Alfred dies and is buried in Havana, Montgomery, Kansas.
In 1900, Hiram is in Chanute, Neosho, Kansas with his wife and two teenage kids.
In 1900, John is in Caney, Montgomery, Kansas (wife and three little kids)
In 1900, Delilah and George (wife and one child) are in Caney, Montgomery, Kansas.
Caney and Chanute are about 60 miles apart.
In 1910, Hiram is in Kansas City, Missouri.
In 1910, John is in Rutland, Montgomery, Kansas.
In 1910, Delilah and George are in Washington, Chautauqua, Kansas.
Rutland and Washington are 255 miles apart.
In 1917 Delilah dies and is buried in Havana, Montgomery, Kansas.
In 1920, Hiram is in Kansas City, Missouri.
In 1920, John is in Rutland, Montgomery, Kansas.
In 1920 George is in Washington, Chautauqua, Kansas. (Delilah died in 1917)
In 1923, George dies and is buried in Havana, Montgomery, Kansas.
In 1930, (Census in April) Hiram is in Kansas City, Missouri, but on
25 Nov 1930, Hiram re-marries at age 70. New wife is Sarah.
In 1930, John is in Rutland, Montgomery, Kansas
In 1933, in the local newspaper, in McLean County, Illinois (which served the Ford County area), there is a big article about Annias Feek, his life, and his family history. The article mentions that Annias visited relatives in Kansas for a month every year.
In 1934, Annias died at age 81, and there was another big article/obituary, although some of it was a recycling of some of the information from the article the year before.
One thing that I assume youíve noticed by now is that they were off again/on again about the spelling of their name. And, for what itís worth, the resultuion was that each of the three sons settled on a different spelling, which they used throughout their adults lives, and which was then used on their headstones. (and these surnames have been carried into modern times, by each branch) The three are : Annias FEEK, Hiram FIEGH, and John FIEG.
Anniasí Illinois Death record lists his dad as Conrad B. Feek (aka Feigh).
Anniasí obituary lists as one of the survivors, his brother, John Feek (aka Fieg), in Kansas.
Hiram wasnít a survivor in Annaisís obituary because he had died the year before.
On Hiramís death certificate, I would also consider it an error that the informant didnít know where Hiramís dad was born. After all, it was listed on the various census records, over the decades. But when you think about it, it makes sense. Hiram gets married at age 70, and his new wife, who is the informant on his death record, knows very little about his family, as most of them have already passed away, and thatís when errors get ďrecorded.Ē Maybe she was embarrassed that she didnít know anything about his family, and felt compelled to put down SOMETHING. Maybe he was senile at the end and he TOLD her that his dadís name was Hiram, and she wouldnít have known the difference. After all, Conrad had died in 1864, sixty eight years prior, and Conrad was someone that Hiram literally never knew.
Additionally, I wouldnít assume that Conradís middle name could have been Hiram, because in several places, Conrad is listed as Conrad B. Feigh, including on his headstone.
For these reasons, Iím proposing that Hiramís dad is Conrad Feigh, not another guy named Hiram.
Yes, error on records are just a PAIN !!
|Frank K.||RE: Edit for Silas Park|
Thanks for the clarifications, links established. Thank you very much for your help.
Added by Frank K. on Jan 17, 2016 10:29 PM
|Frank K.||Edit for Silas Park|
Thanks for the edit sent to link Silas Park to
Father: Elijah Park (1755 - 1793)
Mother: Lucy Starkweather Kinne (1758 - 1809)
as his parents,
I can't verify this connection. How did you come to this conclusion, please?
Thanks for your clarification. Have a nice weekend.
Added by Frank K. on Jan 16, 2016 9:48 PM
|Padgett Researcher Ruth the Sleuth||Jack Montgomery|
Thank you so much for the transfer. I have been able to add more details and link him to family members. Thanks again!
|Bonnie Shirley Amery||Joseph Doty Cochran|
Joseph Doty Cochran married Emma B. Kinnear, June 17, 1896 in Carroll County, Missouri.
Thank you for your contributions.
Bonnie Shirley Amery
|labwriter||Memorial # 120363647|
Thank you for creating the record for Jack Denton Nitz. I see there is also a large "Nitz" headstone. Jack was my mother's first cousin, and I'm trying to figure out this family. Do you also have a George William Hallor Nitz buried near Jack? George was Jack's father. I believe he died in 1985. Also, is there any chance there's a Minnie (Denton) Nitz buried with Jack? She died in 1988, supposedly in Baltimore, but it's hard for me to believe that they wouldn't have buried her with her family in the Mount Washington cemetery. Thank you for checking! Becky Roorda (aka labwriter)
|M (Dillon) Goddard||Find A Grave Memorial# 115403111|
According to her DC (which I do have) her mother was Genevieve not Betty. I can see Betty being connected to Virgil as she was his wife however Betty should not be connect to Beverly. Please disconnect Betty from Beverly.
Thanks so much.
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