Now indeed I see that both Walter and Evelyn have the surname Frasz. Apparently their name is misspelled during the original recording. I proposed an editorial change for them both.
Added by HanK on May 29, 2015 3:00 PM
|HanK||FRANSZ or FRAZ|
Because both mentioned people lie in the same grave, I am still interested in the pictures of both people: Walter and Evelyn "Fransz".
Han Kroon, The Netherlands
Added by HanK on May 28, 2015 2:59 AM
|Carol Ciaramitaro||Frank & Lula Gregor|
Thank you for your time and energy you used to fulfill my photo requests for these two memorial photos.
Have a great day,
Hey, did you see, someone took Master Leon's photo!? How cool! :)
And totally funny! LOL!! They must have taken it WHILE I was writing to you that I needed to contact the office! LOL!!
I'll have to stop by and see where it's at - I have a feeling I was way off.
And I feel VERY badly, because it's obviously the original peg; so the men had to dig it up and raise it; I should have done that. :( I must not have been in the right spot; sorry.
Well, at least it's visible and should remain visible for quite some time. :)
Added by Zelda on Nov 07, 2014 12:45 PM
I know what you're thinking: What's up w/ this delay?
I'm thinking the same thing! LOL!!
I guess it's probably just a bad time of year for the field men to be doing something other than winterizing .. or something. LOL! I have no idea.
I unfortunately didn't get out of work in time to talk w/ someone, on Saturday, but the section doesn't have any new markers in it, yet. I don't want to pester anyone, but they did say it shouldn't take more than a week ... perhaps the work order was misplaced or something. I'll try and call just to make sure we're not forgotten.
I actually like that idea the cemeteries in your area have for submitting the requests in writing. At least there's some kind of acknowledgement of the search.
We have some really impatient office workers this way. Each request is met w/ a beleaguered sigh - I'm really curious what other jobs are included in their office work. I realize they're involved in the sales end, but not really sure what else occupies their time.
It can't be an easy job, that's for sure. And I'm going to make it a little more annoying, come this week. LOL!! They're pretty nice at Mt. Olivet, though.
I'll let you know more by week's end. :)
Added by Zelda on Nov 02, 2014 9:23 AM
Oh my, such a crazy long weekend; sadly, not too successful.
Once again, we're so dependent upon the office staff. I talked w/ a VERY friendly young woman @ Mt. Olivet, who's knowledge of older interments was not on the same level as her friendliness.
However, she said it would be easiest for the cemetery to flag young Master Leon's grave for us. (She provided me w/ a map, but there's two Tier 5s and she wasn't exactly sure which one to send me to. Apparently, the main source of confusion is whether he was considered an infant or a child; she said his age indicates a child's grave, but the size of the plot implies an infant - basically, she didn't know. LOL!!)
I spent some more time, trying to at least find the cement peg, to no avail. Mt. Olivet uses a smaller peg than Holy Sepulchre, so they sink faster/ further and disintegrate faster - they're also just so much easier to miss when trying to dig for them.
There's a man @ Mt. Olivet that's just beyond cool - I really need to find his work schedule. He not only knows the cemetery's locations, but also its history. He's just a major font of information.
We SHOULD have the grave marked by week's end, but w/ cemetery clean-up in progress, I think it may take a bit longer.
She'll call and let me know.
I put in Mr. Joseph's and Mr. Fred's photos. I think Mr. Fred's stone is exceptionally sweet. :)
Have a great week. :)
Added by Zelda on Oct 21, 2014 12:24 PM
Mr. Fred's stone only provides years (1897 - 1935) w/ an interment date of 6/1/1935.
Because Mr. Joseph has no stone, I can only provide an interment date: 12/24/1936 - so close to Christmas. :(
Hope that helps. :)
Added by Zelda on Oct 15, 2014 7:08 PM
You're always so kind and sweet. :)
I have the photos for Mr. Joseph and Mr. Fred; I'm assuming they're not relatives, but would you like to add their memorials, anyways?
I apologize if Mr. Albert's picture looks a little too contrived. After digging and raising the peg, w/ all the mud, it was just a mess. I tried to add some leaves to cover the muck ... but it looks a tad "stagey". :D LOL!! Hopefully, I'll get a nice photo next spring w/ some nice green grass.
I needed to retrieve some potted plants at Mt. Olivet and tried to find young Master Leon. Sadly, I wasn't very successful; I fear he may not have a stone.
I unfortunately went too late (keep forgetting that Holy Sepulchre is pretty much alone in providing extended office hours) and couldn't ask at the office. (Trinity has even shorter hours!)
I hope to be able to get back to Mt. Olivet by next weekend. If this rain lets up, this may be the last few good weekends before our first frost.
I hope to have good news by next Monday. :)
Added by Zelda on Oct 13, 2014 12:40 PM
Land sakes! I'm oh, so very sorry for this delayed post! I had to work the last two weekends plus we're on 12 hr. shifts. The biggest issue is, I use my ISP at a different time frame when I'm on 12 hr. shifts and the connectivity is really wacky. (I tried to connect several times, w/ short term success.)
Can you be any kinder? :) You are such an inspiration. Too often, we take our good health for granted - and too often, we take our second chances for granted.
You're just insanely cool. :) Such an inspiration ... however, I feel compelled to tell you that my index finger is presently extended and I need to say, "Be careful!! Dress warmly and for goodness sakes, STAY OFF THAT MOTORCYCLE!!" LOL!!!
Seriously, please, take good care of yourself. :)
I apologize for not mentioning Mr. Albert in my previous post. I completely forgot.
He's in a section that's a tad water logged. I never noticed that section being like that before, and while I've never had reason to go to that section, I've been to the adjacent section many times. Holy Sepulchre is presently expanding its perimeter and I wonder if they may have graded the new sections in such a way, that the rain water isn't being diverted properly.
I had a hard time getting to his site and finally just pulled on some boots and waded in ... LOL.
I couldn't find his stone and was only able to confirm w/ the office this weekend that his grave is w/ out a stone.
Because of the mud (yeah, the rain this weekend was not helpful LOL!) I'll have to wait a bit on his photo and Mr. Joseph's. I was able to dig up both of their marker disks, but they're both pretty mucky; not good photo ops!
I still don't know what my hours for this coming week, are, but I'd really like to get back out there and get the photos before next weekend.
You've been SO VERY kind and patient. I sincerely apologize for all these delays. If it wasn't crazy work hours, it was the weather - very damp summer. I cannot thank you enough for your patience. You're a gem. :)
Hope to write back w/ good news SOON. :)
THANKS & Later.
Added by Zelda on Oct 04, 2014 9:06 PM
:) You're always so kind. :)
I hope your week went great and your weekend turns out spectacular.
How totally cool of you and your husband! What a wonderful charity. Totally cool.
I'm so very sorry about your Mom's condition; that's not an easy burden to bear. :( To have her so close, yet so very far away.
*sigh* Moms and little kids: the last people we want to suffer. :( You have a very kind heart. :)
... on to business:
* I have to double check at the office, but I believe Mr. Joseph may not have a stone. He's in a single grave section, so all the graves are pretty much chronological. If he does have a stone, it may have sunk; but there's quite a few trees w/ surface roots that seem to make sinking a tad unlikely. We'll know more once I hit the office, today.
* I called Our Lady of Hope and Mr. Frank & Miss Helen are the only Primeaus there. I've uploaded their stones, but please know: I plan on getting back out there and taking better photos. Our Lady of Hope seems to have quite a bit of clay soil; w/ all our rain, it's been a bit of a challenge to get a nice dry stone. I also need to get there closer to noon; such shadows! LOL!!
* I apologize, I completely forgot to update you on Miss Cecilia's stone! The office files show Mr. Edward's name and a question mark for her stone: implying they share a stone (the question mark could mean anything, but the office staff collectively agreed on that conclusion). While Mr. Edward's stone is clearly a single, I have seen similar stones engraved on an upper edge. If your family paid for the engraving is unknown to Holy Sepulchre; however Mr. Edward's stone was bought from Wietecha Monuments. There's no way to know if they returned to Wietecha for Miss Cecilia; but they may have some record on her stone/engraving. (Wietecha has been in the Detroit area for some time, it's the 3rd or 4th generation running the business.)
* How odd about Sr. Tarcisius - you'd think the Sisters would make sure something like that's correct. Someone needs to be smacked w/ a ruler! LOL!! Unless, her given name was Ann Tarcisius; that's possible. (Hey, did I tell you we had a Sr. Tarcisius teaching 1st grade @ my grade school? Cool coincidence!)
That's all I have until I get back from Holy Sepulchre.
Have fun this weekend, but be safe. :)
Please, know of my prayers for you, your family and especially your dear Mom. :) May you all be blessed w/ continued strength. :)
Added by Zelda on Sep 27, 2014 5:16 AM
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