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Oh my, such a crazy long weekend; sadly, not too successful.
Once again, we're so dependent upon the office staff. I talked w/ a VERY friendly young woman @ Mt. Olivet, who's knowledge of older interments was not on the same level as her friendliness.
However, she said it would be easiest for the cemetery to flag young Master Leon's grave for us. (She provided me w/ a map, but there's two Tier 5s and she wasn't exactly sure which one to send me to. Apparently, the main source of confusion is whether he was considered an infant or a child; she said his age indicates a child's grave, but the size of the plot implies an infant - basically, she didn't know. LOL!!)
I spent some more time, trying to at least find the cement peg, to no avail. Mt. Olivet uses a smaller peg than Holy Sepulchre, so they sink faster/ further and disintegrate faster - they're also just so much easier to miss when trying to dig for them.
There's a man @ Mt. Olivet that's just beyond cool - I really need to find his work schedule. He not only knows the cemetery's locations, but also its history. He's just a major font of information.
We SHOULD have the grave marked by week's end, but w/ cemetery clean-up in progress, I think it may take a bit longer.
She'll call and let me know.
I put in Mr. Joseph's and Mr. Fred's photos. I think Mr. Fred's stone is exceptionally sweet. :)
Have a great week. :)
Added by Zelda on Oct 21, 2014 12:24 PM
Mr. Fred's stone only provides years (1897 - 1935) w/ an interment date of 6/1/1935.
Because Mr. Joseph has no stone, I can only provide an interment date: 12/24/1936 - so close to Christmas. :(
Hope that helps. :)
Added by Zelda on Oct 15, 2014 7:08 PM
You're always so kind and sweet. :)
I have the photos for Mr. Joseph and Mr. Fred; I'm assuming they're not relatives, but would you like to add their memorials, anyways?
I apologize if Mr. Albert's picture looks a little too contrived. After digging and raising the peg, w/ all the mud, it was just a mess. I tried to add some leaves to cover the muck ... but it looks a tad "stagey". :D LOL!! Hopefully, I'll get a nice photo next spring w/ some nice green grass.
I needed to retrieve some potted plants at Mt. Olivet and tried to find young Master Leon. Sadly, I wasn't very successful; I fear he may not have a stone.
I unfortunately went too late (keep forgetting that Holy Sepulchre is pretty much alone in providing extended office hours) and couldn't ask at the office. (Trinity has even shorter hours!)
I hope to be able to get back to Mt. Olivet by next weekend. If this rain lets up, this may be the last few good weekends before our first frost.
I hope to have good news by next Monday. :)
Added by Zelda on Oct 13, 2014 12:40 PM
Land sakes! I'm oh, so very sorry for this delayed post! I had to work the last two weekends plus we're on 12 hr. shifts. The biggest issue is, I use my ISP at a different time frame when I'm on 12 hr. shifts and the connectivity is really wacky. (I tried to connect several times, w/ short term success.)
Can you be any kinder? :) You are such an inspiration. Too often, we take our good health for granted - and too often, we take our second chances for granted.
You're just insanely cool. :) Such an inspiration ... however, I feel compelled to tell you that my index finger is presently extended and I need to say, "Be careful!! Dress warmly and for goodness sakes, STAY OFF THAT MOTORCYCLE!!" LOL!!!
Seriously, please, take good care of yourself. :)
I apologize for not mentioning Mr. Albert in my previous post. I completely forgot.
He's in a section that's a tad water logged. I never noticed that section being like that before, and while I've never had reason to go to that section, I've been to the adjacent section many times. Holy Sepulchre is presently expanding its perimeter and I wonder if they may have graded the new sections in such a way, that the rain water isn't being diverted properly.
I had a hard time getting to his site and finally just pulled on some boots and waded in ... LOL.
I couldn't find his stone and was only able to confirm w/ the office this weekend that his grave is w/ out a stone.
Because of the mud (yeah, the rain this weekend was not helpful LOL!) I'll have to wait a bit on his photo and Mr. Joseph's. I was able to dig up both of their marker disks, but they're both pretty mucky; not good photo ops!
I still don't know what my hours for this coming week, are, but I'd really like to get back out there and get the photos before next weekend.
You've been SO VERY kind and patient. I sincerely apologize for all these delays. If it wasn't crazy work hours, it was the weather - very damp summer. I cannot thank you enough for your patience. You're a gem. :)
Hope to write back w/ good news SOON. :)
THANKS & Later.
Added by Zelda on Oct 04, 2014 9:06 PM
:) You're always so kind. :)
I hope your week went great and your weekend turns out spectacular.
How totally cool of you and your husband! What a wonderful charity. Totally cool.
I'm so very sorry about your Mom's condition; that's not an easy burden to bear. :( To have her so close, yet so very far away.
*sigh* Moms and little kids: the last people we want to suffer. :( You have a very kind heart. :)
... on to business:
* I have to double check at the office, but I believe Mr. Joseph may not have a stone. He's in a single grave section, so all the graves are pretty much chronological. If he does have a stone, it may have sunk; but there's quite a few trees w/ surface roots that seem to make sinking a tad unlikely. We'll know more once I hit the office, today.
* I called Our Lady of Hope and Mr. Frank & Miss Helen are the only Primeaus there. I've uploaded their stones, but please know: I plan on getting back out there and taking better photos. Our Lady of Hope seems to have quite a bit of clay soil; w/ all our rain, it's been a bit of a challenge to get a nice dry stone. I also need to get there closer to noon; such shadows! LOL!!
* I apologize, I completely forgot to update you on Miss Cecilia's stone! The office files show Mr. Edward's name and a question mark for her stone: implying they share a stone (the question mark could mean anything, but the office staff collectively agreed on that conclusion). While Mr. Edward's stone is clearly a single, I have seen similar stones engraved on an upper edge. If your family paid for the engraving is unknown to Holy Sepulchre; however Mr. Edward's stone was bought from Wietecha Monuments. There's no way to know if they returned to Wietecha for Miss Cecilia; but they may have some record on her stone/engraving. (Wietecha has been in the Detroit area for some time, it's the 3rd or 4th generation running the business.)
* How odd about Sr. Tarcisius - you'd think the Sisters would make sure something like that's correct. Someone needs to be smacked w/ a ruler! LOL!! Unless, her given name was Ann Tarcisius; that's possible. (Hey, did I tell you we had a Sr. Tarcisius teaching 1st grade @ my grade school? Cool coincidence!)
That's all I have until I get back from Holy Sepulchre.
Have fun this weekend, but be safe. :)
Please, know of my prayers for you, your family and especially your dear Mom. :) May you all be blessed w/ continued strength. :)
Added by Zelda on Sep 27, 2014 5:16 AM
Oh my goodness; you're ever so kind! :) THANK YOU for putting up w/ my goofiness and still offering kindness. :) I sincerely appreciate you allowing me to share in your joy. :)
Back to business (I'll group the names in what appears to be immediate family units - I can only give one set of specific dates, because I only had time to find one set of graves; for the rest, I'll supply the month / year of interment until I find their plots):
* Evariste J. Primeau
Feb. 11, 1869 - June 4, 1937
* Annie M. Primeau
April 28, 1867 - Sept. 27, 1953
Holy Sepulchre has his name as Everiste and her name as Anna Marie.
* Alfred Primeau
* Amelia Sophie Primeau
* Frederick A. Primeau
* Albert Primeau
* Fred Primeau
* Joseph Primeau
* Sr. Tarcisius: I do believe her name is misspelled here at Find A Grave. First, her stone is most likely correct, but I don't think there's a saint w/ the spelling of Tarsisis. Holy Sepulchre has her listed as: Sr. Mary Ann Primeau. Again, I figure there's probably lots of confusion w/ older nuns. I'm not sure what the proper naming convention is for Find A Grave, but the one consistent is the misspelling of her saint name.
That appears to be all the Primeaus at Holy Sepulchre, according to the office files (you guys should have some kind of stock option there! LOL!!). I'm not sure if I'll be able to get back out to Our Lady of Hope this coming weekend, but I definitely want to try. There's a good chance there might be more out that way; and the weather is supposed to be nice and dry. :)
Plus, we're on a streak; want to keep going while our luck is holding out! :)
Thanks & Later. :)
Added by Zelda on Sep 23, 2014 7:33 AM
|Zelda||Oh Geez, I'm a Hot Mess|
I'm such a butt head.
It's Our Lady of Hope in BrownsTOWN - I really should get some sleep before posting! :D
Please, don't report me to the site mods for triple posting! LOL!! XD
Added by Zelda on Sep 22, 2014 2:32 PM
|Zelda||Primeau Palooza Part II|
Sorry! My keyboard is really goofy ... well, so is the keyboard operator! :D Did not mean to hit enter so quickly.
The Primeaus at Our Lady of Hope are:
Frank L. Primeau
1891 - 1972
Helen I. Primeau
1903 - 1982
I have no clue if there are other Primeaus at Our Lady of Hope, I just happened across the above two, while cleaning. So weird! And obviously, there's no guarantee they're related to you, but it's still cool. :)
I'm so sorry, but I really have to scoot; I'll get you the names of Holy Sepulchre's Primeau by tomorrow. (And my sincerest apologies for spelling your family name wrong in that first post - fat "enter" finger to blame, no disrespect intended.)
Added by Zelda on Sep 22, 2014 2:23 PM
|Zelda||It's a Primeau Palooza!!|
Whoa Nelly!! Are you ready to have your mind blow?! :) Totally good news, but sadly, my time is extremely tight - I do apologize. :(
I have quite a few more Primeaus to add; the very friendly office worker was not there on Saturday, but we still got very lucky. :)
Have you seen the memorial for Sr. Tarcisius?
You'll note some inconsistencies between her stone and the data here @ Find A Grave. Holy Sepulchre also has a few differences. Not sure how one determines the accurate naming; should we contact
Mr. Krzeszowski and ask for an edit? (Had a hard time tracking her down through the office, due in part to the name issue; most likely a common issue w/ nuns.)
Here's a totally weird item: I had a photo request at Our Lady of Hope in Brownstone (about 25 miles south of Holy Sepulchre). I always check out the surrounding stones, to look for other possible family members .... and you guessed it!! MORE PREMEAUS!!!
I haven't found all the other stones, yet, so I can't give you official dates (just interment dates, right now.)
Added by Zelda on Sep 22, 2014 2:15 PM
|Zelda||RE: Primeau Headstones|
My tentative plan is to go into the office this Saturday w/ the list of names we know and see if the office staff can tell us if there are any more family members.
There's a VERY friendly and helpful young woman that I usually talk to on the phone on Saturday - HOPEFULLY she'll be there this weekend. So much of the background work is based on the helpfulness of the office; it's so cool to find one that's willing to help.
My work schedule can get iffy (notice of weekend hours is usually last minute) so it might not happen this weekend. But we only have a couple months before the first freeze, so it'd be cool to talk w/ her as soon as possible.
Have you seen Mary Primeau's nemorial? If you make Harry's memorial, I can add his photo. :)
Thanks & Later. :)
Added by Zelda on Sep 16, 2014 1:05 PM
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