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J Martin (#47658574)
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Bio Photo The information provided in the Memorials I have created are directly from our family records.

Please consider the information a guide rather than factual as I have no verifiable records, other than those quoted, but believe some information pointing in the right direction is better than none.

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~ BIRTH/DEATH/MARRIAGE RECORDS ~

For those frustrated by LACK OF EXACT INFORMATION bear in mind these were PIONEERS.

Mass immigration occurred 30 or more years PRIOR to U.S. Independence. Most U.S. births, deaths and marriages occurred AT HOME, and may or may not have been documented by Church Records or the Family Bible, but were not a requirement of the BRITISH EMPIRE.

The Declaration of Independence was a statement adopted by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, which announced that the thirteen American colonies, then at war with Great Britain, regarded themselves as independent states, and no longer a part of the British Empire.

Outside of the largest cities, there were no churches, schools, hospitals, stores, or CEMETERIES. Most pioneer graves occurred near where the individual died and were generally marked only by piles of stone or wooden crosses that disintegrate over time.

Early cemeteries did not bury families together that is a modern day concept. Pioneer cemeteries originally buried people next to each other in the order of death, with separate locations for adults, children and ethnicity.

Foreigners who could not read or write in the native language where they live were functionally illiterate, but the backbone of this nation, building as they traveled.

Illiteracy was the norm, and only the wealthy were able to afford to send their progeny off to the city for several years to be educated.

During pioneer times quill and paper were not standard household items, blackboards and chalk were, which is why there are so few paper documents and the Bible used to document family history.

It isn't that we "FAILED" to find the documents; very few actually exist, and due to illiteracy and language barriers, their accuracy is highly questionable and information often conflicting.

I offer known, but unsubstantiated, optional dates in the files - not to confuse - but to reflect the diversity in record keeping of that era.

Be thankful we have the pre-independence records available, instead of critical of their inaccuracies.

~~~~~~~ FENSTERMACHER ~~~~~~~

After immigration a wide diversity occurred in the spelling of the name Fenstermacher.

Since immigrants usually couldn't speak, read or write English, their name changed as often as the person writing it - and was often phonetic.

Accents, and the fact that other languages do not have the same 26 letter A-Z alphabet that English does, also contributed to making translations tricky and documentation difficult.

As if that wasn't enough the spelling of names is complicated by relocation. As they moved, individuals in one county or state would be taught the spelling of their name differently than the same family members in another.

In addition, names eventually were Anglicised, making it difficult to determine which is the actual, correct, version, so for the most part I have used the spelling of the name the family has agreed upon or where possible the name on the headstone.

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~~~~~~~~~ OBITUARIES ~~~~~~~~~

I have no problem adding obituaries and newspaper photos to this site, because I do contact the source and request permission - even after the fact, such as for those that were already in the files when I obtained them. Please be sure to site the source if you have it.

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~~ SUGGESTIONS & CORRECTIONS ~~

All suggestions & corrections MUST be accompanied by file number, as there are multiply individuals with the same first and last name. If you wish to have files linked, provide the file number for each individual!

NOTE: I reserve the right to verify information prior to annotating any file. Please include source of information.

FYI: Original file links only. I WILL NOT link family members to duplicate or triplicate files. [This note is a result of multiple duplicate files created by Marsha Fenstermacher Binkley.]

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I am reviewing every Fenstermaker record, or derivative of, and would be happy to accept management of any or all, if you are interested in transferring. It is not my intention to just "collect" them - I intend to spend at least a year or so "connecting" them. I do not expect everyone to just hand over their records. Feel free to transfer, or "politely" advise me you decline.

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I am the 9th great granddaughter of Conradt Fenstermacher c1627 Hillscheidt, Rhenish Bavaria, Germany.

MY LINE OF DESCENT:
GGF-9: .. Unknown - Fenstermacher, Conradt
GGF-8: .. 1650-1678 Fenstermacher, Conrad
GGF-7: .. 1678-1761 Fenstermacher, John M
GGF-6: . c1715-1790 Fenstermacher, Philip
GGF-5: .. 1749-1831 Fenstermacher, Michael
GGF-4: .. 1777-1849 Fenstermaker, Philip
GGF-3: .. 1803-1881 Fenstermacher, Michael
GGF-2: .. 1836-1911 Fenstermaker, Aaron
GGF-1: .. 1878-1959 Fenstermaker, Daniel
GMthr: 19061978 Oakes, Rose Fenstermaker
Mother: 1930-pres Martin, Lillian Oakes
ME: ...... 1954-pres JMartin
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Karlen Joyce Gillilan Smith
RE: Old Betzer Cemetery, Carroll, Fairfield, Ohio
You are quite welcome! Feel free to use the photo in your family history records. I was out and about that day so I stopped by and luckily was able to find that requested photo. Very happy to supply it!
Added by Karlen Joyce Gillilan Smi... on Aug 24, 2014 8:17 PM
Dianne C. Carman
RE: Jackson Twp Cemetery, North Jackson, Mahoning, Ohio
I will be back at Jackson next week and I'll see if she is there. I have already photographed that section but will check again.
Added by Dianne C. Carman on Aug 24, 2014 5:08 PM
S.(Rodabaugh)Hanley
Fenstermaker
Have transferred 2 Fenstermakers over to you, told you long ago would do so if I had any....
Added by S.(Rodabaugh)Hanley on Aug 13, 2014 9:06 AM
OmaHanke
Fenstermacher/Maple Grove - Cedar Bluffs, NE
I transferred all of them to you; however, with some regret. First, you don't state your relationship to them. I walked/photographed them for an elderly lady in Syracuse, NE, who is a direct descendant of John and Philibena. Her parents are connected and buried in Lincoln, NE. it appears you are very busy collecting/managing memorials, but you have not contributed as much. I am a volunteer who actually walks/photographs cemeteries and try to connect as many as possible to aid and assist descendants searching. I use census, vital, and obituary records for connecting families. I have issues as several volunteers are acquiring online databases, funeral home and obituary records and uploading for a numbers game, apparently. It is a lot of work of love of genealogy to actually leave your computer and walk the cemeteries and resize the photos to upload them for others. I usually follow the Find A Grave guidelines and require a relationship to the individuals before I transfer. If I am in error, I apologize, it's a win win for everyone if we all contribute.
Regards,
Mary Hanke, Omaha, NE.
Added by OmaHanke on Aug 13, 2014 6:40 AM
John Hansen
Lloyd Fenstermacher transfer request
Hello, I made the transfer of #131921597 to you.
John Hansen
Added by John Hansen on Aug 10, 2014 8:30 AM
Bill Norman
Fenstermaker - Breckenridge
Good morning J,

I am researching the marriage shown for the following persons whose memorials you manage:

Jessie Mae Fenstermaker Breckenridge
Find A Grave Memorial #11743425

James William Breckenridge
Find A Grave Memorial #33109299

I anticipate a lengthy discussion and am wondering if you might prefer to communicate by email? Respectfully,

Bill Norman
Find A Grave Member #48163127
billynorman@yahoo.com
Added by Bill Norman on Aug 03, 2014 8:13 AM
Patty
Burial Locations
Please contact the Green Lawn cemetery for all burials that are after 1979 as they are not on microfilm. Thank You,
Added by Patty on Jul 13, 2014 11:16 PM
Family Finder
Fenstermakers @ Cypress View Mausoleum, San Diego
Hello,
I received your requests for transfer of management. I am happy to transfer management, but I think I have photos at home on my laptop. Let me get the memorials as complete as possible in the next day or two, then they'll be headed your way.

Best,
Shayna
Added by Family Finder on Jul 13, 2014 8:09 PM
Little Fir
Agatha L. (Oiler)
Thank you for adding the information I sent. I viewed her memorial. You did a good job of addressing her birth and adoptive situation with what you wrote there!
Added by Little Fir on Jul 13, 2014 6:35 PM
Bonnie Emmert
RE: Gnaden Huetten Cemetery, Lehighton, Carbon, PA
You're very welcome. Bonnie
Added by Bonnie Emmert on Jul 13, 2014 12:33 PM
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