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J Martin (#47658574)
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Bio Photo The information provided in the Memorials I have created are directly from our family records.

Please consider the information a guide rather than factual as I have no verifiable records, other than those quoted, but believe some information pointing in the right direction is better than none.

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~ BIRTH/DEATH/MARRIAGE RECORDS ~

For those frustrated by LACK OF EXACT INFORMATION bear in mind these were PIONEERS.

Mass immigration occurred 30 or more years PRIOR to U.S. Independence. Most U.S. births, deaths and marriages occurred AT HOME, and may or may not have been documented by Church Records or the Family Bible, but were not a requirement of the BRITISH EMPIRE.

The Declaration of Independence was a statement adopted by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, which announced that the thirteen American colonies, then at war with Great Britain, regarded themselves as independent states, and no longer a part of the British Empire.

Outside of the largest cities, there were no churches, schools, hospitals, stores, or CEMETERIES. Most pioneer graves occurred near where the individual died and were generally marked only by piles of stone or wooden crosses that disintegrate over time.

Early cemeteries did not bury families together that is a modern day concept. Pioneer cemeteries originally buried people next to each other in the order of death, with separate locations for adults, children and ethnicity.

Foreigners who could not read or write in the native language where they live were functionally illiterate, but the backbone of this nation, building as they traveled.

Illiteracy was the norm, and only the wealthy were able to afford to send their progeny off to the city for several years to be educated.

During pioneer times quill and paper were not standard household items, blackboards and chalk were, which is why there are so few paper documents and the Bible used to document family history.

It isn't that we "FAILED" to find the documents; very few actually exist, and due to illiteracy and language barriers, their accuracy is highly questionable and information often conflicting.

I offer known, but unsubstantiated, optional dates in the files - not to confuse - but to reflect the diversity in record keeping of that era.

Be thankful we have the pre-independence records available, instead of critical of their inaccuracies.

~~~~~~~ FENSTERMACHER ~~~~~~~

After immigration a wide diversity occurred in the spelling of the name Fenstermacher.

Since immigrants usually couldn't speak, read or write English, their name changed as often as the person writing it - and was often phonetic.

Accents, and the fact that other languages do not have the same 26 letter A-Z alphabet that English does, also contributed to making translations tricky and documentation difficult.

As if that wasn't enough the spelling of names is complicated by relocation. As they moved, individuals in one county or state would be taught the spelling of their name differently than the same family members in another.

In addition, names eventually were Anglicised, making it difficult to determine which is the actual, correct, version, so for the most part I have used the spelling of the name the family has agreed upon or where possible the name on the headstone.

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~~~~~~~~~ OBITUARIES ~~~~~~~~~

I have no problem adding obituaries and newspaper photos to this site, because I do contact the source and request permission - even after the fact, such as for those that were already in the files when I obtained them. Please be sure to site the source if you have it.

DO NOT ADD ANY DOCUMENTS OTHER THAN OBITUARIES TO MY FILES WITHOUT ACQUIRING MY PERMISSION.

[This note is a result of Marsha Fenstermacher Binkley flooding my files with so many documents I can't even request a headstone photo - because there is no more room.]

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~~ SUGGESTIONS & CORRECTIONS ~~

All suggestions & corrections MUST be accompanied by file number, as there are multiply individuals with the same first and last name. If you wish to have files linked, provide the file number for each individual!

NOTE: I reserve the right to verify information prior to annotating any file. Please include source of information.

FYI: Original file links only. I WILL NOT link family members to duplicate or triplicate files. [This note is a result of multiple duplicate files created by Marsha Fenstermacher Binkley.]

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I am reviewing every Fenstermaker record, or derivative of, and would be happy to accept management of any or all, if you are interested in transferring. It is not my intention to just "collect" them - I intend to spend at least a year or so "connecting" them. I do not expect everyone to just hand over their records. Feel free to transfer, or "politely" advise me you decline.

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I am the 9th great granddaughter of Conradt Fenstermacher c1627 Hillscheidt, Rhenish Bavaria, Germany.

MY LINE OF DESCENT:
GGF-9: .. Unknown - Fenstermacher, Conradt
GGF-8: .. 1650-1678 Fenstermacher, Conrad
GGF-7: .. 1678-1761 Fenstermacher, John M
GGF-6: . c1715-1790 Fenstermacher, Philip
GGF-5: .. 1749-1831 Fenstermacher, Michael
GGF-4: .. 1777-1849 Fenstermaker, Philip
GGF-3: .. 1803-1881 Fenstermacher, Michael
GGF-2: .. 1836-1911 Fenstermaker, Aaron
GGF-1: .. 1878-1959 Fenstermaker, Daniel
GMthr: 19061978 Oakes, Rose Fenstermaker
Mother: 1930-pres Martin, Lillian Oakes
ME: ...... 1954-pres JMartin
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Kathy
Memorial for Maude E. Whims (21679637)
Hello, J Martin. I received your request to transfer this memorial to you, and would be happy to as long as your request complies with Find a Grave's guidelines at http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=listFaqs#79. You didn't give any information on your ties to Maude in your original email, and there was no way to contact you privately.
Added by Kathy on Apr 17, 2014 11:11 AM
kricker61
RE: Oakdale Cemetery, Marysville, Union, Ohio
You are welcome and photo added per request
Added by kricker61 on Apr 14, 2014 4:44 PM
Dennis Friedman
RE: Edward Peter Fenstermaker
Hi J Martin
Sorry I had a typo, not david, Peter
On Edward's memorial, he is listed as, Edward Peter Fenstermaker 1900 to 1937. there is no Edward Fenstermaker, listed in all of stark Co, Ohio, from the list done by The Ohio Genealogical Society. Stark County Chapter, Cemetery Inscriptions for all of Stark Co, Ohio. on that list it shows, Canton Twp., Valley Chapel Cemetery # 103, Section 1, end of row 13, "should be a short row"
Fenstermaker Peter, (Son),1900 - 1937.
David (Father) 1858 -1936.
Cathrine 1860 - 1932
There has been many time that I have seen, someone was not where thy where supposed to be, by the death record or the Obituary.
Sorry for the typo , Dennis Friedman
Added by Dennis Friedman on Apr 13, 2014 4:23 PM
S.(Rodabaugh)Hanley
Fenstermakers
Found more Festermakers in Zion Bloom in Hancoock co ohio. Check them out, if you want them will be happy to transfer...no family of mine...just love having some family to work on..
Added by S.(Rodabaugh)Hanley on Apr 05, 2014 5:21 PM
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Added by Dorris Smith djsmith28@ho... on Mar 21, 2014 7:50 PM
Alan Kraft
John Fenstermacher & Mary Yetter
Me again! I am running into discrepancies for this individual. Your info shows death date as 9 June 1894 - I have 6 June 1894. Marriages/wives - looks like there were 3, but not sure of the order. Was Mary Magdelena number 1 or number 3? According to narrative from Marsha Fenstermacher-Binkley, 1st wife was Maria Grise. Under Mary's site you have one child - Theobold. There were 10 children - not sure how many with which wife. One last thing (for now)- I have a birth year for Mary Yetter as 1816.

Again, how are we related? Elias Fenstermacher is my great great grandfather. Who are you related to?

Denise Blackwell-Kraft
Added by Alan Kraft on Mar 17, 2014 11:53 AM
RickC
RE: Minersville Hill Cemetery, Meigs, OH
You are very welcome for the photos. I'm glad I was able to take the photos for you. Unfortunately, I don't remember seeing any other Fenstermaker or Kruzyk or Zahl markers. That does not mean there are not any others there. I will recheck again sometime when I am back in the area of the cemetery.
Added by RickC on Mar 06, 2014 4:17 AM
ancestryresearch
Fenstermacher
Can you please email me privately regarding Marsha? ancestryresearch@bex.net. Thank you!
Added by ancestryresearch on Mar 03, 2014 1:45 PM
Alan Kraft
Nellie Fenstermacher Wilber
J Martin,

Received your response to my request to maintain this entry. You mentioned you are related - so we must be relatives! as I am a great granddaughter. How are you related? Do you maintain all the Fenstermacher graves? I have LOTS of info and just thought it would be easier... But I am interested in how we are related.

Denise Blackwell-Kraft
Added by Alan Kraft on Mar 03, 2014 7:34 AM
Dawn Graham JacksonDawn
Mary Haws DIckinson Fenstermacher
I have been meaning to add an update to my G G Grandmother Mary Haws Dickinson Fenstermacher's information. I have updates on all of her children.

Thanks for the great work that you do!

Respectfully, Dawn Graham Jackson

PS Would you be interested in a photo of Mary?

Mary Haws Dickinson Fenstermacher was born on May 19, 1828 in Chester County, Pa. to Samuel Haws and Elizabeth Patterson Haws.

She married Jonathan Jones Dickinson in Norrisville, Chester County Pa on Oct 15, 1845.

They had eight children: Lewis Cass Dickinson, Jane Jennie E. Dickinson Markle, Isaiah Jones Dickinson, Mariann Theresa Dickinson,
Florence Isabella Dickinson, Ida Samantha Dickinson Gaddis, and twins Alice Dickinson Starr and Elva Dickinson Grubbs.

Mary and Jonathan lived in Pennsylvania and Iowa.

Mary married Samuel Fenstermacher in the early 1870s in Pennsylvania and they had one child together, Filena Fenstermacher Grubbs Brophy.

Sometime after Samuel's death in August 1882, Mary, Ida, Alice, Elva and Filena moved to Denver. They can be found be found on the
1885 Colorado State Census.

Daughter, Jennie can be found on living in Park, Jefferson County Colorado in the 1880 US Census.
Son, Isaiah can be found living in Fort Collins, Colorado, as two of his sons were born there in 1886.

Children of Mary Haws Dickinson Fenstermacher:
Jennie Dickinson Markle, 1849-1917, buried in Arvada Cemetery, Colorado
Isaiah Jones Dickinson, 1852-1926, buried in Benton City, Washington
Ida Samantha Dickinson Gaddis, 1859-1892 buried in Mount Olivet Cemetery, Buena Vista, Colorado
Alice Dickinson Starr 1863-1907 buried in Orchard Mesa Cemetery, Grand Junction
Elva Dickinson Grubbs 1863-1921 buried in Fairmount Cemetery, Denver Colorado
Filena "Lena" Fenstermacher Grubbs Brophy 1873-1950 buried near her mother and oldest sister in Aravada Cemetery, Colorado.


note: Florence Isabella Dickinson 1857-1863, buried Riverside Cemetery in Anamosa, Iowa.
Mariann Theresa Dickinson born in 1854 is last found on the 1870 US Census living in Pottstown, Pa working as a domestic servant.
Lewis Cass Dickinson born 1847, is last found institutionalized in 1880 in Bradford, Chester County, Pa.
Added by Dawn Graham JacksonDawn on Feb 15, 2014 8:57 PM
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