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Dorothy Alley Abbott (#47680122)
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Bio Photo Born at Alley's Bay on Beals Island, Maine and now I am enjoying my genealogy adventure to pass on to the next generation. Happy travels to everyone.
Currently doing the families from Maine.
Wonderful country and we are very proud of our grandson who served his country in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I am now a member of American Society Daughters of the American Revolution - Big Cypress Chapter



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Mike
RE: Esther M. Stanwood Beal #37523019
Stanwoods are my wives family and I'm not transferring them. Otherwise I would be happy to.
Added by Mike on Oct 15, 2014 8:44 AM
NANCY M
RE: Transfer done!
It is done now! Sorry about that.
Added by NANCY M on Aug 19, 2014 4:36 AM
NANCY M
Transfer done!
Glad you are able to connect with other family members and add information!
Nancy
Added by NANCY M on Aug 17, 2014 7:00 PM
Deborah Winslow
RE: Champion family
Good question. Through the 1880s she is listed on all of the documents as Margaret. After 1900 she is listed as Ellen, or Eleanor (spelled multiple different ways.. I don't think it is spelled the same way twice! ). I don't have a birth record because she was born in Ireland.

But clearly as an adult she went by Eleanor. Her marriage record, death record, and obituary use Eleanor M.

Things used to be so fluid with names. My own grandmother was called by my grandfather Margaret, Alice, or Peggy interchangeably. I didn't know if it was Alice Margaret or Margaret Alice. She was born in 1909. When I found the family on census records, she was listed as Alice Irene. I asked my aunt, her youngest daughter, what her name really was, since I think some census takers were a bit tipsy sometimes. Turns out her name was actually Alice Irene, and she hated the name Irene, and started to use Margaret. She got married using Margaret but never changed her name legally. People didn't have to back then!
Added by Deborah Winslow on Aug 15, 2014 7:33 AM
Deborah Winslow
RE: William Champion
Hi Dorothy. I got a message in my email on Find A Grave but don't see it here ON Find A Grave so I'm replying to this one.

It seems you are seeking information on the Champion side. The elder William emigrated to this continent from his place of birth in Cornwall, England, and I don't research overseas records much. I have access through Ancestry but their census info over there is so limited...what they bothered to write on the censuses... I can't really use it. So I don't have parents OR possible siblings for William. Sometimes you luck out and an immigrant sibling moves in with the person you are researching somewhere along the line, but no such people appeared on the census or other records that I have for him.

If you would like to find out more, the next step would be for you to send away for his death certificate from Washington DC DOH. You can get a form online; it's $18 I believe and you have to send a copy of your i.d. with it. You might get his parents names, places of birth, etc in England, or other useful information.

Another possibility is to have the National Archives pull his pension file. He filed for a pension after his honorable discharge from the service in 1881 (he enlisted in 1876), and the pension card says 'invalid', so I guess he was injured. He did work as a stone cutter in DC though. His pension might have been denied, too, I don't know. Anyway, if you email me at johnsondeborah18@hotmail.com, I'll send you a copy of the pension information if you want, then you can contact the National Archives. Sometimes they even have pictures in those files, all kinds of stuff. You never know.

Eleanor Margaret and William only had the one child, William Beattie Champion, per the 1900 and 1910 censuses, where she lists one child born and one surviving, and she was 52 years old by then. Then Eleanor died in 1913 at age 55. The elder William did not remarry, it seems, with the evidence of his obituary in the paper. He spent the last years of his life at the Soldier's home, from at least 1920 to 1937 it appears. So the younger William Beattie didn't have any blood siblings, to my knowledge. From what I have found so far, his adopted sister, who was actually a Kidd first cousin, Martha Jane Bartley Champion, does not appear to have had any children either, but if she did, they are actually Bartleys, not Champions.

Also, I doubt William was married before he married Eleanor Margaret, so no (legitimate LOL)children there. William emigrated about 1872-1873 at the age of 19; enlisted in 1876; married Eleanor in 1878, and was with her until her death in 1913, when William was 59.

To my knowledge, William Beattie Champion, the younger William, had 2 daughters, Margaret (above) and Mary, who married Hugh McGahey sometime between 1940 and 1950; I have no info on any of their children, if there were any.
You say you are directly related to a Margaret Faulkingham, so you would know more than me I guess?


You mean Margaret Faulkingham 1925-2008, born in Virginia, died in Maine, right? Had four sons and three daughters? We are second cousins 1x removed.

Or were you referring to her daughter Margaret? Margaret Champion Faulkingham's daughter Margaret Faulkingham is my third cousin, and so of course are her siblings (and if any children born of her Aunt Mary McGahey, those first cousins of hers would also be my third cousins).

Or, next generation: a child of the younger Margaret Faulkingham (who married a Manley) would be my third cousin 1x removed. The same for any children of Margaret's siblings. If you are bloodline directly related to either of the two Margarets, then you and I are cousins too. Our mutual ancestors are Benjamin Kidd and Jane Martin Kidd, which you can get to through the Find A Grave links for Eleanor Margaret. Ben and Jane are in Congressional, and I will join them there one day. I have tons of information on the Kidd family and hope to produce a book in the next year.

I actually tried to contact some Champion descendents on Facebook, sending them family tree charts to show I wasn't a quack, but didn't get any answers. But then Facebook puts messages from non-friends in a weird folder many people don't even know exists. I sent messages to Mary Knowlton, Michael and Mark Faulkingham, and Margaret Manley.

I have about 20-30 documents / references for the elder William (I say 20-30 because I see some of them are for his son, not him, and I'll have to move them). If you email me I'll send you some copies.


Added by Deborah Winslow on Aug 14, 2014 2:48 PM
Deborah Winslow
RE: William Champion
Oh I didn't ask for a transfer of the memorial, since they stated they wouldn't transfer. I just asked that they update birth/death info and link to his wife. If that gets done I'll add biographical data and see if they post it. If they do then I'll delete the duplicate that was transferred to me. If not then better leaving mine up with the family links and I'll add the bio to the memorial I manage.

I don't know why people don't want to transfer memorials if they don't know the individuals or they aren't in their family line. I guess it's like collecting trading cards or something? Or if there is more to that I've simply not heard what it is. I'm in this for the family connections / genealogy myself, so I can link people and add to the bios over time as I discover more information and have time to post and update it.
Added by Deborah Winslow on Aug 12, 2014 8:42 PM
Deborah Winslow
RE: William Champion
Oh I didn't ask for a transfer of the memorial, since they stated they wouldn't transfer. I just asked that they update birth/death info and link to his wife. If that gets done I'll add biographical data and see if they post it. If they do then I'll delete the duplicate that was transferred to me. If not then better leaving mine up with the family links and I'll add the bio to the memorial I manage.

I don't know why people don't want to transfer memorials if they don't know the individuals or they aren't in their family line. I guess it's like collecting trading cards or something? Or if there is more to that I've simply not heard what it is. I'm in this for the family connections / genealogy myself.
Added by Deborah Winslow on Aug 12, 2014 8:41 PM
Deborah Winslow
William Champion
See my other message, but I hope this doesn't get too complicated! If the owner of the other memorial changes the links I provided, then I guess I will also have to ask the owner of the son William Champion's memorial to change THEIR links. Whew. Oh wait LOL that's you! Okay. I submitted the request for changes.
Added by Deborah Winslow on Aug 12, 2014 4:23 PM
Deborah Winslow
RE: William Champion
Hi Dorothy! Isn't that interesting! I guess when I searched for William on Find A Grave, the only memorial I saw was the one that had been posted in 2007 by International Wargraves. I asked for a transfer, and they did. The memorial I manage is the one with the relative links; the other one has no links nor information and will only transfer to direct descendents within four generations.

Coincidentally, I just finished researching William last week and have more information to add. He was married to my great-grand aunt Eleanor Margaret Kidd Champion, who emigrated from Ireland.

I'll see if this other memorial, which predates the one I adopted from 2007 by two years, will pick up my requests for links, and then I'll delete mine. I've been creating a network of links and have advised all of the various people in my line of the link to my memorial. I don't want to bust up the links unless new ones get put in on the other one. I'd also like them to add the research I've done.

Thanks for pointing this out!
Deb Winslow
Added by Deborah Winslow on Aug 12, 2014 4:04 PM
GulfportBob
RE: William Champion
I reported it and I hope that it gets merged.
Added by GulfportBob on Aug 12, 2014 12:58 PM
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