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mike reeves (#47684672)
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Bio Photo My family interests are in the Reeves of Newton County, Miss. and Joneses of Elmore County, Ala., who migrated out of Georgia during the 1850-1880 period.

Local historical interest in Talladega County, Alabama, formed in 1832 from land purchased from Creeks at Treaty of Cusseta. Compilers of published cemetery records of Talladega County, Carolyn Lane Luttrell and Joseph W. & Francis S. Upchurch, observed decades ago that stones had already "...disappeared through erosion of time, vandalism, and bulldozers." As lamented of the Marble Springs Presbyterian Church Cemetery site by E. Grace Jemison in "Historic Tales of Talladega": "There are now only a few people who have so much as a memory of the once sacred spot".

Antebellum planters and Victorian era farmers had family burial plots upon their own land. Pioneer church consecrated ground lay fallow after congregations moved. Alabama law, Act 2007-4008, allows access to grave sites by family members and researchers who provide reasonable notice to property owners. Land owners normally accommodate polite requests to photograph gravestones without an impolite citation of state law. Code of Alabama Section 13A-11-12 states any person who willfully defaces or removes a gravestone has committed a misdemeanor, which has a one year statute of limitation. The disturbance of buried remains is a felony.

The oldest marble headstones and slabs in Talladega County, dated from 1830 to 1860, were sometimes inscribed with the name of the local quarry or agent. The Herd Brothers and Richard Miller were the first marble quarriers in the county. In 1845 Dr. Edward Gantt purchased the Sylacauga quarry subsequently named after him from John Herd. After the death of the eldest Herd brother, George, in 1853 their business in Winterboro went to his partners, H. P. Oden & Company. An "A. Herd & Bros." bill from 1855 reflects the cost of a 6 1/2' by 3' marble slab to have been $35, with clasped hands sculpted for $5 and letters cut at 5 cents apiece, for a total cost of $56.10 to be paid within a year. The relative cost of that finished stone today would be about $1,560 dollars.

African American marble headstones from the late Victorian era are seldom seen, less than a dozen at the two oldest public cemeteries, Oakhill and Westview, in Talladega. From 1914 until 1930 marble headstones were provided after an annual tax to members of the Mosaic Templars of America (MTA) of Little Rock, Arkansas. Many of these MTA members, formed in local "Chambers", had endured slavery and witnessed emancipation. Chamber stones are approximately 28" in height and 16" in width, with a rounded and forward sloping top. The MTA symbol, encircled letters "M","T","A" and "3V's" spaced within crossed shepherd staffs, is cut in relief upon the upper face of the stones. The two staffs represented the biblical exodus led by Moses and Aaron, with "3V's" for " Veni, Vedi, Veci "; I Came, I Saw, I Conquered.

Those insured from 1890 thru 1930 by the Woodmen of the World (WOW) Life Insurance Society of Omaha, Nebraska, received distinctive marble tree stump markers which were normally 4'-5' in height. Although initially free to WOW policy holders, by 1900 a $100 rider was required to cover their expense. The sculpted stones were discontinued in 1930 due to having become cost prohibitive. These monuments are also seen with, or as, stacked cut logs. The WOW logo with symbolic axes, mallets, and wedges are carved onto the stone trees. Scrolls are often depicted, suspended on ropes or attached to the trees, and "Dum Tacet Clamet"; Though Silent, He Speaks.

Sandstone from local quarries, such as the one at S. M. Jemison's farm on Kelly Creek, was used for headstones and obelisks from 1845 thru 1870. This "mustard colored" stone was said to have been attractive when first cut. Sandstone blocks, one inscribed "1862", were used to build the wall enclosing Sunnyside, aka "Jemison", Cemetery. Fieldstone and flagstone markers, some with etched names, are in rural and urban plots. Cast zinc, "white bronze", and iron markers were used in the latter 19th Century. Cast cement slabs, headstones, and curbing have been commonly used since the early 20th Century. White washing of the cement produced ersatz marble.

Cenotaphs are memorials placed in honor of deceased who lie elsewhere, such as the fourteen roadside Veterans Administration (VA) headstones on private property near Cook Place (aka "Taylor-Cook") Cemetery and the seventy-something VA stones at Ft. Williams Military Memorial Park. "Arrow Points", monthly publication of the Alabama Anthropological Society, noted the chartering of The Fort Williams Memorial Association "... to do honor to the Tennesseans long buried at old Ft. Williams on the Coosa" in their April-May 1926 edition, a decade after Lay Dam was built downriver. An inscribed marble boulder and VA headstones for over seventy soldiers slain a century before were placed at the site during 1933-1937. In the 1950's, Rev. Randolph F. Blackford reported in "Fascinating Talladega County" that the actual burials were covered in backwaters of the dam. The site was added to the Alabama Register of Landmarks in 1976. Joseph and Francis Upchurch said the site lacked actual burials in their county cemetery compilation published in 1989. Then, in 2006, land developers said the cemetery was devoid of any graves and an "eyesore". Ground-penetrating radar (GPR) scans followed by hand and backhoe trenching failed to disclose human remains. Monument and stones were then moved to a local park and the site improved with private estates on Lay Lake.

Skeletal remains of soldiers do actually lie beneath the "Battle of Talladega" (aka "Jackson Pyramid") monument at Oak Hill Cemetery. Over half the remains of a score of Tennessee volunteers slain were recovered by the Andrew Jackson Chapter of the DAR and reinterred there in 1900. The sixty-four "Unknown Confederate Soldier" VA headstones in two parallel rows at Oak Hill also mark the burial places of soldiers, although they weren't unknown at the time of their deaths. Soldiers who died in the local hospital or conscript camp were buried with wooden markers identifying them, but the grave markers deteriorated in time until those beneath were "Known but to God".

An in-the-ground interment, marked or otherwise, is no longer the cultural norm in our society. Data from the National Funeral Directors Association reflects the cremation rate in this country rose from 3.5% to 43% during the past fifty years, with almost 20% of Alabamians in 2012 having elected "ashes to ashes".

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Not marble, nor the gilded monuments
Of princes, shall outlive this powerful rhyme;
But you shall shine more bright in these contents
Than unswept stone, besmear'd with sluttish time.

Sonnet 55
Wm. Shakespeare (1564-1616)
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Kitty Walker Lennard
Burell
Thanks , I will see if they are related and transfer mine.

Kitty
Added by Kitty Walker Lennard on Feb 18, 2015 8:18 AM
Pam B
Baker Dulaney
Thanks for posting the photos! It's sad to see that his marker is broken. I need to see if there is anything that can be done before it goes missing.

Thanks again!
Pam
Added by Pam B on Feb 17, 2015 6:30 PM
Linda
RE: John V. Compton
Mike, thank you and your son so much for all of your efforts. I really appreciate it!
Added by Linda on Feb 08, 2015 9:52 AM
Kitty Walker Lennard
Duplicate Cemetery
I noticed that We have a duplicate cemetery now for Plum Springs and it is in Calhoun Co.

It would be impossible to try to merge the cemeteries and put all graves in proper place. So I thought I would take a stab at getting folks to transfer the memorial's to correct cemeteries and them maybe get out the duplicates and get the extra cemetery deleted.

I believe this memorial is down the road from the Church and should be in the # 2 Cemetery

# 116922851 - A. Maxwell Dulaney

Thanks
Added by Kitty Walker Lennard on Jan 21, 2015 3:32 AM
Faded Genes
McElderry
You are so right. Eliza Boteler Philpott was born in 1821. Col Thomas McElderry and Eliza Boteler married in 1822. The other one that we could not read may possible be his wife. I think I have made the corrections, if not let me know. Somewhere I remember a Philpott Family Bible. Do you have a copy?
Added by Faded Genes on Jan 17, 2015 10:52 PM
K.B.Skala
RE: Ipavec
Mike,

I knew Stanley's brother Charles Ipavec who passed in 2013. Thanks again for the great work.

Kathy
Added by K.B.Skala on Jan 16, 2015 4:27 PM
Linda
RE: John V. Compton
Hi Mike,

Following up to see if you had any luck finding John V. Compton's marker? The weather hasn't been particularly cooperative.

Best regards,
Doleen Wilbur
Added by Linda on Jan 03, 2015 2:34 PM
Jeannine Roberts
1897 Exhumation Ft.Toulouse Jackson
I am interested in finding out about the 1897 exhumation Order from War Department you refer to about War of 1812 soldiers for Ft. Toulouse /Jackson park. Do you have a copy? Thanks Bill Roberts bpr967@gmail.com My wife Jeannine is member here.
Added by Jeannine Roberts on Dec 30, 2014 8:07 PM
junkbuyercbd
RE: Ross family in Rosemere Cemetery
Mike, I am sorry for the delay in responding. I have never done any research on the Ross Families. Most of the family "linking" has come from contributor edits. I generally try to look at the edits and do a quick (but less than accurate) glance to authenticate edits. Recently, I have received a few edits of a fraudulent nature. I generally look at the contributor credentials and their number of memorials. So in saying this, I feel the current "linking edits" may be correct. If you feel comfortable to link some of the Ross Family, please submit the edits.

I still have about 130 pictures to add to the memorials at "Rosemere Cemetery". I generally go to the Huddle House in Opelika/Auburn area for coffee and picture postings. Their WI-FI is relatively fast. It still can take a while to post a bunch of pictures.

Thanks, CBD
Added by junkbuyercbd on Dec 23, 2014 7:43 PM
Don Atwell
RE: Allie Murdock Reeves (1827-1905) Headstone photo
Thanks Mike, sure use the photo that's what it's for.

Don
Added by Don Atwell on Nov 21, 2014 7:43 PM
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