|Jean Weaver (#47749212)|
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Deeply rooted in Athens & Rochester, Indiana. Most of my family going back to the early 1800's are all buried in the same cemetery. I doubt there is room for more of us and I appreciate this site so I can find my loved ones.|
I have found many relatives and lose the day researching and finding my family. It is very wonderful and gives me a special peace leaving messages to those I love from long ago.
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Since some of the countries I have presence in have workers available for $2 a day, and computers available at 25 cent per hour, I have a great advantage on my research. Though my reports are primrily in Spanish. But while I might let out a few photos as well as information, I will not be releasing any documentation. Meaning you are left to your own research.
I had the deeds to 8 grave sites purchased by Pop in 1953. However, they went up in smoke when I burned all my remaining possessions in Oregon and left the US. They held the provision that only Christians of the Caucasian persuasion be buried there. At the time of purchase Pop had affiliations with some Freemasons mainly Rotary, Optomists and Shriners. And Justin was a Freemason of the 32nd Degree. I have reason to believe a Indiana Klan Member as well. He displayed symobls and when asked of the meaning would reply it was secret.
A couple times I witnessed Pops negotiating powers where he brought up his Freemason connection. You may not remember but he had a Masonic ring with a pseudo ruby. he wore it sometimes on his right hand. I believe he had an important role in these associations in the 1930s, especially in Enid Oklahoma. But he ticked off his boss there when he unknowingly reported the bosses nephew for transporting whiskey in company vehicles He was then transfered and his career soon fell apart. Considering the Halstead Act (Prohibition) expired in 1934, so that event must have been 1934 or prior. Incidentally. They still owned a home in Enid. The person they sold the home to never paid.
Oh and it was my 4th great uncle Captain john Whistler of the US Army that established Ft Dearborn later named Chicago. During the American Revolution he had been a Major in the British Army. One of his sons, George Washington Whistler later built the Trans Siberian Railroad in Russia. He is buried in St Petersburg. Another of his sons became the second longest serving member in the US Military rising to the rank of Brevet Brigadier General. Only General Winfield Scott served longer. General Whisler about two years prior to the Custer incident had been in command at Ft Lincoln and had though he had killed Chief Gall. But Gall wasnt dead. He was the one who actually killed Custer with one of the very few repeating rifles in the Indians hands. . One shot through the back hitting his heart, another through the head. Custer was dead before they got to the defensive position. Therefor cut from leadership and losing morale. Both sons were Graduates of West Point. A 3rd son attended West point and became the famous John Abbott McNeil Whisler. That branch of the family changed the spelling adding the T in the early 1600s when they moved to Ireland and US to serve in the army of Oliver Cromwell. My line remained in Switzerland and the spelling was Wissler using the German double S. Back in earlier times was also spelled Ghissler. Again with the German double S and the Gh pronounced as a Wh.
I can add that in Ohio during the 1830s there was a Whisler-Custer marriage. Custer was born in Ohio in 1839 one year prior to my great grandfather. So unfortunately looks like George Armstrong Custer was an uncle of mine.
My data base of relatives considts of over 12,000,000 relatives back to the year 432. And prior to the last 6 generations I really have followed only the male members. Typically when women married their birth name was completely forgotten. Remember too most marriages were simply Common Law and never officially registered unless living very close to your county seat.
Oh. Custer was born 117 miles from Mt Gilead where my great grandfather was born. And Colombus not too far south. Custer lead several charges at Gettysburg using men from the 8th Illinois led by General Kilpatric as well as other units under General Plesanton and were in part responsible for repelling Picketts Charge repelling Confederate General Stuarts Calvary support. Oh and the first shot at Gettysburg shot from very near a white two story white farm house owned by yet another Whistler. My great grandfathers name appears spelled both Whistler and Whisler. Mostly using the first name John as did his 4 brothers (boy was that confusing. None were named John. Jon was their father and all laid claim to using it. My g-grandfathers name was Nelson. . Compunding things all these brothers named John tended to marry women with names of their mother etc. ) if you cannot verify information with at least 3 corresponding documents, trust nothing. False information can be a nightmare. And customary for so many to leave out anything that doesnt make the person appear stellar.
The best way to avoid harm is to get a USB hard drive larger than the one ib your computer. Periodically use a disc cloning program to replicate it. I use Petition Master Free Edition by EASEUS. Put the USB drive in a safe place. EASEUS allows you to make a start up DVD to run its restore operation. A 1TB hard drive will cost about $80. You might additionally get a USB flash drive with the capacity to store there. With 640 ones and zeros I can destroy the Bios of any IBM based computer. Hits that first 640K they have had since the PC came out in 1983. And due to no longer having IPs the damage is permanent. It has its disadvantages but I no longer have any Microsoft Windows as my main Operating System. I went to UNIX. Mainly because I could not easily obtain the Windows DVDs to install and all available were pirated copies in 32 bit and usually Spanish. I know what it is to lose everything as I once did. Right down to a small suitcase and an additional case with a laptop. A $424 one way ticket to Panama and I was employed teaching Chemistry and Infinite-Anaylitical Geometry 4 days later at the National University of Science and Technology. The blood of Tengri runs in me.
|Ronald Whisler||My Dad.|
Only I have access to the records of my dad, Arthur William Whisler. Obtained through the National Records Department in St Louis. Only available to the next of kin and even then require the intervention of my US Congressman. However he served in the 765th Tank Batallion (Sherman) attached to the 1st Infantry Division. Which hit Omaha Beach on the opening day and first wave. Unfortunately, all the tanks sunk and he found himself like so many opthers unarmed against Nazis who were even equiped with armored vehicles produced by Ford and GM plants in Germany. Well the tanks were soon replaced . My dads had an additional disadvantage. His pulled a trailer with the field kitchen, depriving them, like the unit command, from speed and manuverability. Sherman was a light tank with a 75 or 76mm mm against the heaviest tanks of the time and 85 and 88 mm guns with much higher velocity. At least the British adaption with a 5 inch gun and extra armor called the Firefly could actually penetrate the armor, of the Panzer and Tigers and later Panther tanks. Everyone else outran them and waited for the German tank to run out of fuel or break down. Usually the US losing 5 or 6 tanks to the German one. Hose out the interior, plug the hole and replace the crew and put the Sherman back into action. Being gas they were called Ronson Lighters. My dad related quite a few stories of men screaming as they burned inside. My dad was wounded less than 6 weeks before Germany surrendered. Shot up by a straffing Foxwulf. He shot up two belts of 50 cal trying to summon help. The following morning some 28 German snipers were discovered dead in the trees. The only known kills my dad got. And that German gave my dad the slow death of just over 20 years. Flushed all his medals down the toilet commenting on how bogus and meaningless they were. The worst of the Nazis like von Braun came to America and were rewarded with US Citizenship. Good book is War is a Racket by US Marine General Smedley Butler. The wars are all about anything for a profit America. War is good business, mothers invest your sons. Only 4 of my family of interest to me. Cousins Doug, Don, Rich and Jeannie. Jeannie was the only one who even informed me of my mothers death. And cousin Rich performed in a Civil War reenactment group of the 8th Illinois Cavalry. Coincidentally the very unit in which my great grandfather served and was wounded 11 times. I am not interested in reconnecting with any other family unless my Dads side and not my own generation. When I was down everyone vanished. Now that I am doing very well, I prefer to remain so.
My family on my Dads side goes back to the year 432 in Denmark. 1690 in America, VA would have killed me as they did my dad and numerous friends.
Hard times only made me stronger. I had a 25 year hiatus and the only way now is up. I have all my dads military records available only from next of kin. And had to get that through my Congressman in Oregon. I hals have my great grandfather Nelson Whislers military records from the National Archieves. He served in the 8th Illinois Calvary. In every battle present the first to attack. Even fired the first shot at Gettysburg. But great grandadwas still recovering from wounds at the Battle of Whiskey Station. Wounded 11 times in 4 years. Hey but the rough part is he was paid much better than I was more than 100 years later in Vietnam. Enough that he cashed in his bounties, land grants and bought a river boat.
Thanks for the photos Jean. After Mother died I didnt get a thing of the family past. Nor possesions of my own that had been left in her care. I am still alive and well. But no longer live in the US. Instead I have citizenship in Panama, Bolivia, UK, Luxemborg and my favorite giving me free access to some 187 countries, Finland. I am healthier, wealthier, freer, happier than ever. I run 2 miles daily and not even over 20,000 ft mountains of the Andes tire me. I take no medications and my BP is 102 over 54, resting pulse of 46. If only the good die young I should live longer than Methusela. I have met the present and past presidents of Panama and Costa Rica. Past president of Ecuador as well as current President Ortega of Nicaragua. They are building the Gran Canal there 600 meters wide and over 20 meters deep. Zang Jinga is the financer and know him well too.
|A Horan||RE: John Weaver|
Added by A Horan on Jun 27, 2012 3:49 PM
|Talbot Fisher||Arthur Whisler|
I do not have an obit or picture, but I can go to the library and get an obit for you sometime this week.
|Rick Vandendriessche||Gladys K Hall|
We have several oil paintings of hers that were given to my great Aunt Ruth Clayton in the 50's. She was from Rochester, Indiana. Often wonder who Gladys Hall was.
|Kathy O||Harold E Lurtsema|
I transferred the memorial to you so you can enter the obituary.
Added by Kathy O on Apr 29, 2012 7:47 PM
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