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|D. R. Walls||Thomas Moore Loy Sr.|
Just thought of a few "tidbits" I should publicly post, in case anyone else reading is interested in Thomas Moore Loy Sr.'s family.
His son George W. Loy (listed as George M. in 1850 census) married Caroline Cronic as he was going to fight in the Civil War. Then in 1865 she divorced him, on grounds of infidelity. In less than 2 weeks after the divorce became final, she married neighbor Alexander McCann. As yet, I've still found no record on George after this. Though I was told he has a grave marker, no dates, near his parents. As for Caroline and Alexander McCann, of their several children, their daughter Almina married my grandma's uncle James "Wallace" Loy. (It also shortly ended in a divorce!). Almina's brother married Zona (Buchholz) Davis' mother, then left a widow and remarried to Zona's father. Zona was a well known radio personality in Effingham.
Thomas and Susannah's son Thomas Moore Loy, Jr. married Martha Anna ("Annie") Bryan. After Annie became a widow, she married Wade Brown. Then, in 1949, Annie tragically died as a patient at St. Anthony's Hospital fire. Another relative who died in the fire was Samantha Hawkins McKinnon, second wife of Thomas M. Loy Sr.'s nephew John Thomas McKinnon.
BTW: That fire made international news. My brother, a teen when I was born, was only a few months old at the time of the fire. My parents were living in my mom's hometown at the time, but had come to Effingham to visit my dad's widowed father. Upon hearing the hospital had burned down the previous night, my dad had a premonition his dad had been one of the casualties. (He wasn't--hadn't even been in the hospital.) My mom waited in the car with my brother while my dad had gone to the hospital site (with handkerchief over his nose due to the stench) to inquire about his dad.
Thomas and Susannah's son Orlando B. Loy ("Lan" "O.B.") died in 1915; after years of chronic illness, he committed suicide inside the (closed) shoe store he owned. He married Malinda Loy, who descended from another branch of Loys that briefly lived in Effingham Co., IL. Those Loys originated in PA from progenitor Matthias Loy. O.B. and Malinda divorced within 5 years with no children. O.B. remarried to Alice Montgomery and they had daughter Grace Loy. A researcher, who knew I was researching Loys, sent me an original carded photograph of "Grace Loy." The researcher didn't know who this was, but photo was in with inherited things. The only Grace Loy in Effingham in that era and that age would have to be O.B.'s daughter. To find photo quick on my website, the URL is http://loyhistory.com/effloypix4.html
|D. R. Walls||RE: Thomas Moore Loy Sr|
Feel free to email me directly if you'd like. It's easier than posting on the board, especially when having to consult our records. Thanks for the compliments on my site. Unfortunately, I found some links no longer work due to the new HTML coding required for modern browsers. When I have time, I'm planning on changing to a different (CMS Wordpress) format...which will take lots of advance planning before I upload the entire revision. There is a link that mentions old photos that need identified. Maybe you might be able to recognize some of them in your own old photos??
I know that Ferd Jr. and Rosalie's kids were Alfred, Barbara, Calvin, and Myron. So which is your parent? What you said about Ferd Sr. spoiling his kids, it truly fits with what I heard...at least for Ferd Jr.!! Cousin Jessie (Loy) Treen (daughter of Rev. Frank W. Loy) went to school with her father's 2nd cousin Ferd Jr. She was nearly 3 years younger than Ferd Jr., but they were in the same grade. She told me that as she was leaning on her elbow on her desk, Ferd would pass by and knock her elbow down and she'd go down. Jessie also remembered Myra as being an accomplished pianist. They had corresponded for many years, after Myra moved to Colorado. Years ago I'd been in contact with Myra's grandson. I'm in contact with other descendants of Thomas Moore Loy, Sr.
Ferd Sr. was born the year after Jessie's dad and both had the same initials F.W. Loy. So in some records, where it just gives initials and ages, it's easy to confuse the two during the times they were both living in Effingham.
I have an image of Ferd Sr from one of the Effingham Co. histories. And in the 1980s someone had sent me a photocopy of a photo of Myra as a young girl.
I have the 1883 and 1910 Effingham Co., IL biographical books in pdf, so in case those were the ones you were going to copy, letting you know. Ferd Sr was also briefly mentioned in Herringshaw's American Blue Book of Biography (1914).
Other Thomas-Susannah descendant researchers I'd corresponded with years ago (I started researching in my teens) had theorized Thomas and Susannah's minor children went to live with the Wrights. At time of Thomas' death (while Susannah was still living) the children were appointed guardianship under Ruben H. Nichol(a)s. It was common in those days, when fathers died, children were usually appointed guardians over their business affairs/estate while still living with widowed mother.
Does your family still live in Arkansas?
|D. R. Walls||Thomas Moore Loy Sr|
Three years ago you posted photos of Thomas M. Loy. (At present, listing says "Thomas Mathew Loy" but primary records show he was "Thomas Moore Loy" and son "Thomas Moore Loy, Jr.") Many thanks for adding these photos.
I was curious how you came about them and source of how photos were identified as this Thomas. Once someone sent me an old photo of "my grandmother." I knew it wasn't her, despite her name being on it. Later I found her sister-in-law also went by "Susie." Both shared same names until my grandma married. So photo ID mix-ups can easily happen when ancestors share same names.
There were several Thomas Loys living at the same time in Effingham County, Illinois. I'd not seen photos of any. As Thomas M. Loy Sr. died in 1868, when Cabinet Cards weren't popular (they didn't become popular until 1880s), I'm inclined to think these photos are of son Thomas M. Loy, Jr., a barber in the city of Effingham.
Thomas M. Sr. also had a nephew Thomas Loy, recorded earlier in life also as Thomas M. Loy. But after the Civil War, he began using name "Thomas S. Loy." This was my g-g-grandfather's brother. As long as the photos were identified as "Thomas M. Loy" and not just "Thomas Loy" I think it could be narrowed down to Thomas M. Loy Jr.
Thanks again for helping me verify the photos.
Go to the main page for Ida Mission Cemetery and look at the picture. It lists six phone numbers of the board members for the cemetery. Hope that helps! CJ
Added by CJ on Sep 26, 2013 1:05 PM
|CJ||RE: George Rushing Jr.|
I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with the family. Just took photos at that cemetery to fulfill a request. Sorry I couldn't be of any help! CJ
Added by CJ on Sep 25, 2013 6:55 PM
|William Brown||Zona Fuller Throops|
Thank you for your assistance. I finally reached her son and he says that she doesn't have a headstone.
|Joanne||RE: E. K. Baker|
Did you put it on the memorial? If not you can if you want to. Did you check for the other two.
I understand when you are knew you don't quite know what you are suppose to do. I was that way when I started so don't feel bad. Just let me know what I need to do since I claimed them. Joanne
Added by Joanne on Aug 18, 2012 3:06 PM
|Janet Davis||Margaret D. Rains|
How delighted I am that I created a memorial for her! I transferred the memorial to you so you can make the corrections and additions, Frances. I love the photos!
|Donna Rankin * Searching the Past||:)|
Be careful...this site is VERY addictive! Welcome aboard!