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Connie Thompson (#47830940)
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Long Black Veil
Billie Swim Williams
Connie, I received the following message from a grandson of James K. Williams.

Billie Swim Williams
My grandfather James K. Williams[1903-1988]Eugene's brother and other family members said that Billie was five or six years old when Eugene and Bertha got together.

Blessing
Added by Long Black Veil on Dec 12, 2014 6:15 AM
Long Black Veil
RE: William C
I'm not sure when I will be in KY. Where I can search in the court house for Gene and Bertha May marriage record... With the finding of Billie' birth index, showing he was not a Williams but a Swim, not sure now finding a marriage record is as important,,, you might want to change the info you posted to Eugene' memorial to show stepfather of William "Billie" Williams.

I know my oldest brother said he remembers Billie went by Billie Swim in the early or mid 1940'. People don't like to admit or tell their children they were born out of wed-lock. About 2 months ago my 1st cousin' daughter got in touch with me, she had been searching for her father and any info, family for almost 20 years... she was about 8/9 years old when her father left... she was never able to find when or where he was born... I had to fill her in, her father was born out of wedlock. After his mother married when he was about 10 years old, his mother changed his surname to that of her husband, although he was never adopted.
Added by Long Black Veil on Dec 10, 2014 10:54 AM
Long Black Veil
William C "Billie" Swim
Billie, was born in Rowan Co., under the name of William C Swim... Meaning he is not Gene Williams' bio son.


Kentucky, Birth Index, 1911-1999
about William C Swim




Name:
William C Swim



Date of Birth:
11 Dec 1921

Birth Place:
Rowan, Kentucky, USA

Mother's name:
Bertha Siwm

Volume Number:
139

Certificate Number:
69304

Volume Year:
1921

Added by Long Black Veil on Dec 10, 2014 6:59 AM
Long Black Veil
RE: Eugene & Bertha May Swim Williams
I know some of Billie' children looked like there grandmother Bertha May.

Many times when doing our family tree, we have to check and re-check what someone tells us about their/our families. My late uncle was into genealogy for over 60 years before his death, had written two books which can be found in some liberty, gave speeches at Universities. Traveled the world in search of info on our families. After I got into doing my family tree about 15 years ago, I found many mistakes in his research/books which I can support by documents. My uncle relied to much on what older people told him or a family book someone had published on a surname. Everyone makes mistakes, because they forget dates, places and get people mixed up.

I can understand one mistake in the census listing Billie as a Swim, but not two census both the 1930, & 1940, listing him as a Swim. If Billie was Eugene "Gene"' bio son I'm sure he would have been listed as Billie Williams, son in the census.

In talking to my oldest brother who is 83, he said when he was growing up, some of the older people around Salt Lick, refer to Billie as Billie Swim, Mrs. Williams' son. I think this requires more research.

Maybe you can find the time and look for a marriage record in Bath Co, for Eugene "Gene" and Bertha May, or its possible they might have married in Rowan Co.

I will do what I can to find the answer to this question.

Blessing
Added by Long Black Veil on Dec 10, 2014 6:56 AM
Long Black Veil
RE: Eugene & Bertha May Swim Williams
Thank you so much for the kind offer to share your info Connie. I am not related to Billie. I went to school with two of Billie' children and use to spend the night with Billie' daughter when we were in grade school. I have fond memories of Mr. & Mrs. Williams as to how kind they were. They were poor people but so kind.

If you don't belong to ancestry, I will be happy to sent you the 1930, 1940, census showing Billie listed as Billie Swim, stepson to Eugene Williams

Blessing

Added by Long Black Veil on Dec 09, 2014 2:37 PM
Long Black Veil
RE: Eugene & Bertha May Swim Williams
Billie passed away on Sunday, at the VA center in Lexington. He was born Dec 11, 1921. Billie' obit list parents as Eugene and Bertha May. I believe Bertha May was Billie' mother, but Eugene was his stepfather. In 1930, 1940, Billie is listed as Billie Swim, stepson. Eugene raised Billie, Eugene was the only father Billie knew, when Billie changed his surname from Swim to Williams I don't know.

The last time I saw Billie was in 2011, or 2012, Billie was at his daughter' shop when I stopped in to buy some flowers. We talked for a while, he was still the same person I remember as a child.

Blessing
Added by Long Black Veil on Dec 09, 2014 11:13 AM
Long Black Veil
RE: Williams Cemetery, Mudlick Rd Bath Co, KY
Thank you for changing this cemetery from Owingsville, to Salt Lick. Yes the cemetery is located on the Mudlick Road, Salt Lick,

Blessing
Added by Long Black Veil on Dec 09, 2014 11:05 AM
Long Black Veil
Williams Cemetery, Mudlick Rd Bath Co, KY
Not sure who listed this cemetery on find a grave, but this cemetery is located on the Mud Lick Road, Salt Lick, KY., not Owingsville, KY.

Tank you for all the work you do on find a grave, which helps others.

Blessing
Added by Long Black Veil on Dec 09, 2014 5:43 AM
Long Black Veil
Eugene & Bertha May Swim Williams
I noticed you have enter Eugene and his wife Bertha May Swim Williams on find a grave. In checking the 1930, 1940, census Billie is listed as Billie Swim stepson in the household of Eugene "Gene" Williams. Do you have any more info on this family as to why Billie was listed as a stepson? I can contact one of Billie' children later. I knew Mr.& Mrs. William when I was a child growing up near where they lived, they were two of the kindness, caring people. They raise Billie' six children and no children were loved any more than these children were.

Blessing
Added by Long Black Veil on Dec 09, 2014 5:40 AM
Shelley Thompson
Book
Hi I was wondering where I can get a book of the Williams? Eli Williams Jr buried in Bath Country Ky is my ggg grandfather.
Added by Shelley Thompson on Dec 08, 2014 12:50 PM
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