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Alyssa McIntosh (#47914829)
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Bio Photo My interest is the Titanic and the other ships. I'm interested in history and what people wore back then. What was life back then.
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Hildur Panula-Heinonen
Jewish Memorials
Hi,

I just wanted to point something out tht is kinda bothering me in your memorials.

I accept other peoples religions as their own and i think its great that you are honoring many of the Jewish victims of the Holocaust by making memorials for them. However, as a Jewish woman, i must inform you that we do not really believe in Jesus Christ the way that others do. Please do not add "Safe in the arms of Jesus Christ" on the memorial of a Jewish person. If you would like to add a religious sentiment, please include God instead of Jesus. This is especially important for the Holocaust victims who were being forced to deny our God and follow Jesus.

Thank you again,
Hildur Panula-Heinonen.

Btw, being Finnish and Jewish is quite easy: Jewish is my religion, Finnish is my culture and country origin. A person can be both, its like saying someone is American and Christian:)
Added by Hildur Panula-Heinonen on Apr 18, 2014 2:30 PM
Pinoy Pride
RE: Alysa McIntosh
Pretty tragic indeed. Even back then, the huge gap in social class was already obvious. Whatever else, they're still precious children, beautiful in the eyes of God as well as mine. As for the SS Norge child victims, I wouldn't be able to include them (at least for now) even though I would very much like to since the accident appears to be no one's fault and wasn't caused by malice or negligence. Simply put, it appears a plain accident unlike the Titanic disaster which traces its roots to an ignorant comment by an employee of the White Star Line ("Not even God himself could sink this ship"). Many other tragic incidents have proven that we should never ever mock God at all.

As for the (dis)honorable Nazi leader himself, he is no longer looked up to by the Germans and Austrians as before as he is now viewed by just about everybody in the world with deep contempt. He can even be called by many other not-so-flattering nicknames such as "The Monster of Weimar" and "The Vampire of Teutonia," to name a few. The sheer level of his brutality remains unparalled in the annals of history, and all of us living today have the responsibility to make sure this will never be repeated, equalled or surpassed for the rest of human existence.
Added by Pinoy Pride on Aug 08, 2013 10:07 PM
Pinoy Pride
RE: Alysa McIntosh
God and His only begotten son Jesus indeed loved children and knew they were going to be with them. By the way, I've already seen Robert Douglas Spedden's memorial, and found out he died at the tender age of 9. Just don't know yet if his death was related to the Titanic disaster as he died 3 years after the tragedy, a tragedy that could have been prevented had additional precautions been taken in the first place. Reports have also confirmed that a White Star Line employee even mentioned at the launch of the Titanic on May 31, 1911, "Not even God himself could sink this ship." Indeed, we should never ever put Our Lord God to the test.

Yes, I did indeed include the children who died in the Lusitania sinking, a tragedy that could have also been prevented had the WWI German soldiers who fired a torpedo at it not taken an overly aggressive stance against a mere passenger liner that crossed their defense territory. Along with the Titanic victims, may their souls rest in heavenly peace in the loving arms of Our Dear Lord God.
Added by Pinoy Pride on Aug 03, 2013 10:45 PM
Pinoy Pride
RE: Alysa McIntosh
I totally agree with you. Even though Jews don't believe in Christ and even rejected him and continue to do so today (Bearded Graver and Bernadette were able to confirm this fact), it is still no reason at all for the Nazis to mistreat Jews the way they did during World War II. Two wrongs definitely don't make a right, and the Nazis have become no more different from the Jews who crucified Jesus Christ to his death. Indeed, for every religious group, you will encounter at least one member who has little or no tolerance at all for other people's beliefs not like his own.

That scummer of a Nazi leader indeed didn't believe Jesus when the later said that "All the children should come to me." For him, there was no concept of a child or anything innocent, just a subhuman, a "life unworthy of life" like what he perceived about with our brothers and sisters in the Jewish faith as well as with other assorted non-Aryans and handicapped people. To me, this simply defies belief as I found a lot of really beautiful Jewish kids and other non-Aryans in general inside out. He can go on believing what he wanted to believe in about such beautiful people, only that he will have to keep on doing so on the dark side of the afterlife.
Added by Pinoy Pride on Jul 30, 2013 6:39 AM
Pinoy Pride
RE: Alysa McIntosh
Sad and tragic indeed. I haven't found Bernard and Roland Baumgrat's photos yet, but I have with some of the other children, and they were indeed treated like criminals worse than animals.

Recently, I have come to fully understand that one of the main reasons why the predominantly Christian Germans then treated Jews like criminals was because the latter intensely dislikes the much-loved Jesus Christ. For them, he is nothing more than a false messiah, and it is forbidden in their faith and highly offensive to them to deify an individual person. This also explains why they made him die a horrible death on the cross.

Despite this long bloody history between the Jewish and Christian faiths and even though I am a devout Christian, this doesn't affect at all the love I have for the Jews who perished in the Holocaust, especially the children who never got to live their lives to the fullest. If at least one of them would temporarily come back to life and meet with me, I would tell that child that in spite of our religious differences, I still love him/her and would always fondly remember him/her with all my heart and soul as my Christian faith taught me to love unconditionally and be tolerant of other people's beliefs and not to hate and kill like the Germans of their time did.
Added by Pinoy Pride on Jul 28, 2013 12:17 AM
Pinoy Pride
RE: Alysa McIntosh
You're welcome. Some girls, even today, could indeed pass for boys when they have their hair cut off.
Added by Pinoy Pride on Jul 25, 2013 4:22 AM
Pinoy Pride
RE: Alysa McIntosh
Ilush Deutsch (Find A Grave Memorial# 108012880) was a girl, although she can be mistaken for a boy in that picture.
Added by Pinoy Pride on Jul 13, 2013 2:19 PM
Hildur Panula-Heinonen
RE: Norge 1904
I have begun to make a few videos now that i have a good converter. When i upload them i will let you know so that you can watch them. I imagine you will enjoy them :)
Added by Hildur Panula-Heinonen on Apr 09, 2013 2:58 PM
Hildur Panula-Heinonen
RE: Norge 1904
Its is fine to put on youtube, but i would like you NOT to use the photo of the Panula boys.
Added by Hildur Panula-Heinonen on Apr 05, 2013 8:40 PM
Hildur Panula-Heinonen
RE: Norge 1904
Which photo do you have for the Panula boys? I lent the family photo to a museum a long time ago. I shall shorty be releasing the photo to the public and when i do i will let you know about it.

As for the memorial video you would like to make which includes my photos of Empress of Ireland, Norge, Titanic, Lusitania, General Slocum, Eastland and The Halifax Explosion.....first off i would suggest making a separate video for the Halifax Explosion victims as technically they have nothing to do with Shipwrecks.
You may use which ever images i have posted for these videos, please credit me in the video.
Also, if you have any questions about the people in your videos, i might be able to help.
Added by Hildur Panula-Heinonen on Apr 04, 2013 11:28 AM
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