Herbert J Williams

Herbert J Williams

Birth
Death
4 Dec 1963
Burial
Archer, Madison County, Idaho, USA
Memorial ID
6456016 View Source
My great-grandfather. His bio from "George Williams: A Pocatello Pioneer," by Emmons N. Williams, is as follows:

The 1st white child born in the rough frontier railroad camp of Pocatello was Herbert Williams. He was born Aug 1, 1887, to George and Elizabeth Jones Williams. The family moved to a small farm in Logan during the railroad strike in 1894, and George also worked in the rock quarries.

Elizabeth died in 1896. Herbert, age 9, and Stanley, age 4 1/2, lived for 2 years in the Andrew Nyman home in North Logan. Laura (6 1/2), Grant (2 1/2) and Walden (6 months) went to live with their grandparents, Jude and Julia Williams, in Pocatello.

George married Tilda Hokman in 1898, and the family was reunited in Pocatello.

At age 15 Herb left left school and worked as a Hotel Bannock bellboy. Later he drove a small, single-horse delivery wagon for Hyde and Pond Grocery. He took orders at the kitchen doors during the mornings, filled them, and delivered them in the afternoons.

During his teens Herbert assumed the middle initial J (Jones was his mother's maiden name) to distinguish himself from his uncle, Herbert B. Williams.

At age 18 Herb went to San Francisco seeking employment. While there he received his [LDS] mission call to the British Isles. He arrived home 3 days before the San Francisco earthquake.

He left July 4, 1906, and spent his 19th birthday in England. His mission was interesting but filled with hardship. He escaped from a mob's barrage of rotten eggs, tomatoes, etc, by swinging aboard a passing streetcar. Another time he was being crowded into the sea and was saved by the timely arrival of a harbor police patrol boat.

When Herb returned in 1908 he became counselor to the 1st bishop of the Pocatello 2nd Ward, Henry Reddish.

During these years Herb worked for Pocatello Cash Grocery, for Pocatello Mercantile Co, as a partner in Prater Photo, for Armour and Co as Pocatello representative, in 1910 at Armours in Salt Lake, and later as an OSL railroad fireman, shoveling coal for the steam locomotives.

Herb had great faith in his premissionary blessing which promised that the would "travel in safety on land and sea." He shed tears of gratitude many times as he recounted a variety of hairbreadth escapes during his lifetime.

In the fall of 1909 Herb met Minnie Johnson, whom he married on June 7, 1911, in the Salt Lake Temple.

In 1914 the family (Herb, Minnie and Bessie) moved to a farm in Archer, ID. Here Herb served in Sunday School and was the ward clerk for about 5 years. Daughters Cleo [my grandma], Audrey and Marie were born in Archer. On Dec 5, 1925, Herb moved his family to Pocatello, where he was engaged in trucking; he had been driving back and forth on weekends for a few months until he could make living arrangements for his family.

In February 1931 he began his 23-year term in the Pocatello police department, serving 4 1/2 years as a patrolman, 2 years as Captain of Police, and 15 years as a detective. He had numerous citations for commendable work from the FBI and others. In 1951 he received a plaque from the police department and the Idaho State Journal, naming him Detective of the Year. He was humbly grateful for a word of appreciation for a mostly thankless job. He retired on Aug 1, 1952, at the mandatory retirement age of 65.

Herb was afflicted with diabetes the last several years of his life; he died in St Anthony, ID, on Dec 4, 1963.
My great-grandfather. His bio from "George Williams: A Pocatello Pioneer," by Emmons N. Williams, is as follows:

The 1st white child born in the rough frontier railroad camp of Pocatello was Herbert Williams. He was born Aug 1, 1887, to George and Elizabeth Jones Williams. The family moved to a small farm in Logan during the railroad strike in 1894, and George also worked in the rock quarries.

Elizabeth died in 1896. Herbert, age 9, and Stanley, age 4 1/2, lived for 2 years in the Andrew Nyman home in North Logan. Laura (6 1/2), Grant (2 1/2) and Walden (6 months) went to live with their grandparents, Jude and Julia Williams, in Pocatello.

George married Tilda Hokman in 1898, and the family was reunited in Pocatello.

At age 15 Herb left left school and worked as a Hotel Bannock bellboy. Later he drove a small, single-horse delivery wagon for Hyde and Pond Grocery. He took orders at the kitchen doors during the mornings, filled them, and delivered them in the afternoons.

During his teens Herbert assumed the middle initial J (Jones was his mother's maiden name) to distinguish himself from his uncle, Herbert B. Williams.

At age 18 Herb went to San Francisco seeking employment. While there he received his [LDS] mission call to the British Isles. He arrived home 3 days before the San Francisco earthquake.

He left July 4, 1906, and spent his 19th birthday in England. His mission was interesting but filled with hardship. He escaped from a mob's barrage of rotten eggs, tomatoes, etc, by swinging aboard a passing streetcar. Another time he was being crowded into the sea and was saved by the timely arrival of a harbor police patrol boat.

When Herb returned in 1908 he became counselor to the 1st bishop of the Pocatello 2nd Ward, Henry Reddish.

During these years Herb worked for Pocatello Cash Grocery, for Pocatello Mercantile Co, as a partner in Prater Photo, for Armour and Co as Pocatello representative, in 1910 at Armours in Salt Lake, and later as an OSL railroad fireman, shoveling coal for the steam locomotives.

Herb had great faith in his premissionary blessing which promised that the would "travel in safety on land and sea." He shed tears of gratitude many times as he recounted a variety of hairbreadth escapes during his lifetime.

In the fall of 1909 Herb met Minnie Johnson, whom he married on June 7, 1911, in the Salt Lake Temple.

In 1914 the family (Herb, Minnie and Bessie) moved to a farm in Archer, ID. Here Herb served in Sunday School and was the ward clerk for about 5 years. Daughters Cleo [my grandma], Audrey and Marie were born in Archer. On Dec 5, 1925, Herb moved his family to Pocatello, where he was engaged in trucking; he had been driving back and forth on weekends for a few months until he could make living arrangements for his family.

In February 1931 he began his 23-year term in the Pocatello police department, serving 4 1/2 years as a patrolman, 2 years as Captain of Police, and 15 years as a detective. He had numerous citations for commendable work from the FBI and others. In 1951 he received a plaque from the police department and the Idaho State Journal, naming him Detective of the Year. He was humbly grateful for a word of appreciation for a mostly thankless job. He retired on Aug 1, 1952, at the mandatory retirement age of 65.

Herb was afflicted with diabetes the last several years of his life; he died in St Anthony, ID, on Dec 4, 1963.


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