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Helen Johnson Toulmin Gaines

Birth
Blakeley, Baldwin County, Alabama, USA
Death
12 Mar 1829 (aged 14)
Saint Stephens, Washington County, Alabama, USA
Burial
Saint Stephens, Washington County, Alabama, USA Add to Map
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Daughter of Judge Harry Toulmin and his second wife, Martha Johnson.

Charts compiled by Harry T. Toulmin and wife Mary Morgan Duggar Toulmin, based on their personal knowledge, interviews and research, show there is some mystery about Helen Toulmin Gaines, evidently because of her early death. By her name, she clearly was the child of Judge Toulmin's second wife, Martha Johnson, married in 1812, although the HTT/MMDT charts show her birth date as 1800.
Other family trees show her as born 22 September 1800 in Kentucky, died 12 MAR 1829 in Cuba. (Whether this is the country of Cuba or the town in Sumter County, Alabama, is uncertain.)
Martha Johnson Toulmin's first child, Helen's full brother, was born in 1813.
Other family trees say Helen Toulmn was born in Mobile in 1814, although she may have been born at Blakeley, Baldwin County, Mobile, where her parents lived on the Eastern shore of Mobile Bay while Mobile and Mobile County, on the western shore of the bay, were still Spanish Territory.

On Dec. 22, 1810, with the War of 1812 looming, her elder sister Frances Toulmin's husband Capt. Edmund Pendleton Gaines had sent the order, by proclamation of the President, to the Spanish Commandant of Fort Mobile that he was to turn over the town and fort of Mobile to the U.S. Government.

Burial site undetermined. Possibly buried by her husband at the old St. Stephens Cemetery or by her father's lost gravesite at Washington Court House, Washington County.

Her son Dr. Edmund Pendleton Gaines later moved to Mobile and married his first cousin Sarah Emma Toulmin. The home where the lived on Government Street is still standing next to Church Street Cemetery. In 1875, Dr. and Mrs. Gaines purchased 908 Government St. from the widow Mary Bolles Roberts but never lived there, instead renting it to other families until Harry T. Pillans bought it from the widow Mary Toulmin Gaines about 1892. Mary Toulmin Gaines' sister-in-law Mary Montague Henshaw Toulmin (widow of Judge Harry T. Toulmin, first cousin of Dr.E.P. Gaines and nephew of his mother Helen Toulmin Gaines) later lived at 908 Government St. with her sister Elizabeth Pillans and died there.
Helen Toulmin Gaines was also a sister of Frances Toulmin (who married General Edmund Pendleton Gaines) and Emma Sarah Toulmin who married Thomas Hord Herndon. Their son Congressman Thomas Hord Herndon rented 908 Government St. from Dr. and Mrs. E.P. Gaines (1880-83) and it was there that T.H. Herndon died in 1883.


A later Helen Toulmin married 29 Jul 1865 in Mobile, AL to Samuel E. Rundle.
On 22 Sep 1880 in Mobile, AL, another Helen Toulmin married John Ewing. Some family researchers online have confuse these two Helen Toulmins.
Daughter of Judge Harry Toulmin and his second wife, Martha Johnson.

Charts compiled by Harry T. Toulmin and wife Mary Morgan Duggar Toulmin, based on their personal knowledge, interviews and research, show there is some mystery about Helen Toulmin Gaines, evidently because of her early death. By her name, she clearly was the child of Judge Toulmin's second wife, Martha Johnson, married in 1812, although the HTT/MMDT charts show her birth date as 1800.
Other family trees show her as born 22 September 1800 in Kentucky, died 12 MAR 1829 in Cuba. (Whether this is the country of Cuba or the town in Sumter County, Alabama, is uncertain.)
Martha Johnson Toulmin's first child, Helen's full brother, was born in 1813.
Other family trees say Helen Toulmn was born in Mobile in 1814, although she may have been born at Blakeley, Baldwin County, Mobile, where her parents lived on the Eastern shore of Mobile Bay while Mobile and Mobile County, on the western shore of the bay, were still Spanish Territory.

On Dec. 22, 1810, with the War of 1812 looming, her elder sister Frances Toulmin's husband Capt. Edmund Pendleton Gaines had sent the order, by proclamation of the President, to the Spanish Commandant of Fort Mobile that he was to turn over the town and fort of Mobile to the U.S. Government.

Burial site undetermined. Possibly buried by her husband at the old St. Stephens Cemetery or by her father's lost gravesite at Washington Court House, Washington County.

Her son Dr. Edmund Pendleton Gaines later moved to Mobile and married his first cousin Sarah Emma Toulmin. The home where the lived on Government Street is still standing next to Church Street Cemetery. In 1875, Dr. and Mrs. Gaines purchased 908 Government St. from the widow Mary Bolles Roberts but never lived there, instead renting it to other families until Harry T. Pillans bought it from the widow Mary Toulmin Gaines about 1892. Mary Toulmin Gaines' sister-in-law Mary Montague Henshaw Toulmin (widow of Judge Harry T. Toulmin, first cousin of Dr.E.P. Gaines and nephew of his mother Helen Toulmin Gaines) later lived at 908 Government St. with her sister Elizabeth Pillans and died there.
Helen Toulmin Gaines was also a sister of Frances Toulmin (who married General Edmund Pendleton Gaines) and Emma Sarah Toulmin who married Thomas Hord Herndon. Their son Congressman Thomas Hord Herndon rented 908 Government St. from Dr. and Mrs. E.P. Gaines (1880-83) and it was there that T.H. Herndon died in 1883.


A later Helen Toulmin married 29 Jul 1865 in Mobile, AL to Samuel E. Rundle.
On 22 Sep 1880 in Mobile, AL, another Helen Toulmin married John Ewing. Some family researchers online have confuse these two Helen Toulmins.


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