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Anna Sophia <I>Dransmann Noelker</I> Amelung

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Anna Sophia Dransmann Noelker Amelung

Birth
Death
1 Feb 1909 (aged 90)
Franklin County, Missouri, USA
Burial
Washington, Franklin County, Missouri, USA Add to Map
Plot
Single Grave Section Row 9 Grave 27
Memorial ID
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My direct oldest ancestor that I have firm documentation that connects on down.
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Per Kim Hoelscher Daniels of Krakow, sent to me in 2012:

Philip's wife was not a Trentmann. Her maiden name was DRANSMANN. In German the pronunciation of "D" and "T" are similar and because Trentmann is also a common name in Krakow, her name was misspelled. Anna Sophia Dransmann was the widow of David Noelker also of Krakow. They were my ggg grandparents. David died while she was pregnant with her ?ninth child. She then married Philip Amelung and had two more children. The census records show her older children named Noelker as part of their household. She was the sister of Anna Maria Dransmann Hoelscher of Krakow, Anna Engele "Angela" Dransmann Reuber Miesner of Krakow, and Anna Elizabeth Dransmann Gruppenhoff of St. Louis. All four sisters were born in Osnabrueck Germany in the early 1800's. Their parents were Casper Dransmann and Mary Katherine Nobbe. Casper's burial record is at St. Francis Borgia. He died in 1855 at the age of 80. Katherine Dransmann, his widow then lived with her widowed son-in-law Henry Hoelscher (Hulcher) as seen on the 1860 census.

If my memory is correct, Sophia's maiden name is spelled "Transmann" in SFB's handwritten records, and when it was transcribed later, someone assumed it was "Trentmann". When germans trill the "r" in a "dr" combination it's very easy for an English speaker to hear "t". To my knowledge the four Dransmann sisters were the only ones with this last name so whoever transcribed it went with the more common name of Trentmann. It wasn't until I looked at the actual handwritten record that I noticed it myself.
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Name variations noted in research:
Anna Sophia Trentmann Amelung
Sophia Transman
Tojohie Dranskmann
Sophia Fransman
Sophia Ameloung - 1860 Census

Birth year given as 1817 in 1900 Census.
Immigration- unknown

Born in Osnaburg, Preuben (Prussia).
Note: per research - Following World War II, the Allies broke up the vast state of Prussia and all it's Provinces such as Westphalia, and created new German states from its territory. Since then, the term's relevance has been limited to historical, geographical, or cultural usages.

Married David Henry Noelker
October 1, 1842
Washington, Franklin County, Missouri
Note spelling In "Missouri Marriages":
David Henri Nolder
Spouse: Tojohie Dranskmann
Marriage Date: 1 Oct 1842
Location: Franklin
State: Missouri

6 children

Widowed

Married Philippus Amelung
May 13, 1856
St. Francis Borgia Catholic Church,
Washington, Franklin County, Missouri

Note spelling Per LDS Records:
(Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints),
Philipp Amelung & Sophia Transman
married 13 May 1856.
St. Francis Borgia Catholic Church,
Washington, Franklin County, MO.
"Missiouri Marriages" - gives date as May 15, 1856.

2 children
My direct oldest ancestor that I have firm documentation that connects on down.
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Per Kim Hoelscher Daniels of Krakow, sent to me in 2012:

Philip's wife was not a Trentmann. Her maiden name was DRANSMANN. In German the pronunciation of "D" and "T" are similar and because Trentmann is also a common name in Krakow, her name was misspelled. Anna Sophia Dransmann was the widow of David Noelker also of Krakow. They were my ggg grandparents. David died while she was pregnant with her ?ninth child. She then married Philip Amelung and had two more children. The census records show her older children named Noelker as part of their household. She was the sister of Anna Maria Dransmann Hoelscher of Krakow, Anna Engele "Angela" Dransmann Reuber Miesner of Krakow, and Anna Elizabeth Dransmann Gruppenhoff of St. Louis. All four sisters were born in Osnabrueck Germany in the early 1800's. Their parents were Casper Dransmann and Mary Katherine Nobbe. Casper's burial record is at St. Francis Borgia. He died in 1855 at the age of 80. Katherine Dransmann, his widow then lived with her widowed son-in-law Henry Hoelscher (Hulcher) as seen on the 1860 census.

If my memory is correct, Sophia's maiden name is spelled "Transmann" in SFB's handwritten records, and when it was transcribed later, someone assumed it was "Trentmann". When germans trill the "r" in a "dr" combination it's very easy for an English speaker to hear "t". To my knowledge the four Dransmann sisters were the only ones with this last name so whoever transcribed it went with the more common name of Trentmann. It wasn't until I looked at the actual handwritten record that I noticed it myself.
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Name variations noted in research:
Anna Sophia Trentmann Amelung
Sophia Transman
Tojohie Dranskmann
Sophia Fransman
Sophia Ameloung - 1860 Census

Birth year given as 1817 in 1900 Census.
Immigration- unknown

Born in Osnaburg, Preuben (Prussia).
Note: per research - Following World War II, the Allies broke up the vast state of Prussia and all it's Provinces such as Westphalia, and created new German states from its territory. Since then, the term's relevance has been limited to historical, geographical, or cultural usages.

Married David Henry Noelker
October 1, 1842
Washington, Franklin County, Missouri
Note spelling In "Missouri Marriages":
David Henri Nolder
Spouse: Tojohie Dranskmann
Marriage Date: 1 Oct 1842
Location: Franklin
State: Missouri

6 children

Widowed

Married Philippus Amelung
May 13, 1856
St. Francis Borgia Catholic Church,
Washington, Franklin County, Missouri

Note spelling Per LDS Records:
(Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints),
Philipp Amelung & Sophia Transman
married 13 May 1856.
St. Francis Borgia Catholic Church,
Washington, Franklin County, MO.
"Missiouri Marriages" - gives date as May 15, 1856.

2 children


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