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history4sure (#46997739)
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Bio Photo "When God sends forth a special living soul to learn the ways of the earth, an earthly mother's love is waiting; we call this wonder birth. When God calls home a loving earthly soul and stills a fleeting breath, a Heavenly Father's love is waiting; this too is birth, not death."

I am willing to transfer any memorials which are not my ancestors or relatives and will try to help anyone with information or research. I think it is important to identify persons, when possible, so we can know who they are and who their families are, for historical and personal reasons.
2017 Update:
Sixty eight years ago I started looking for lost graves as Grandma sent me, at age 8, to find "the indention by the pine tree, near great great grandpa's headstone" so she could place flowers where a baby was buried in 1869 with no "marker". From her, I learned to look for that tiny "frosted" spot when the night before had been chilly (the ground is still warmer at a burial site which has no vault, even after 100's of years!)
I first knew grief when Grandma died, 61 years ago. To honor her, I began genealogy research from her precious family records. Fifty six years ago the death of my young first husband, at the hands of robbers, nearly caused the loss of my first unborn child. Years later, a miscarriage took another son and now, for the past 32 years, we have also grieved for our youngest son, lost to a freak accident. Brad
Writing personal histories has been a passion for over 40 years, since I found my relationship to Mormon Battalion soldiers and an early U.S. President.
Being an unpaid cemetery sexton for the past 26 years has required mapping and recording (handwritten) of over 3,000 birth & death locations and overseeing burials and settings of gravestones for some 950 persons. During this time, the birth and death records from 1854 at one cemetery and from 1869 to date, at another, were located and recorded; exact grave locations had never been written down for 155 years! I'm still hand drawing family lot maps for the latter cemetery for all owners.
For over 30 years, I have composed poetry and short stories about loved ones' passing, both for my own and others.
So, am I a "graver" ?, a "griever", a "genealogist", a "historian", a "sexton", a "poet" or just kind of "nutty"?? (We ALL could have, instead of this, been lounging on "sum beach sum where", ya know!)
Anyway, I feel sad when an unkind remark is posted, or it is stated that Find a Grave was designed for one purpose and that "newcomers", who want to use it for genealogy, or some other reason than it was originally intended, should go elsewhere. I hope it is intended to help us all find burial locations, which should include photos, dates, and family links, if possible for proper identification.
Short bios also help identify specific individuals and search data sources can help us verify the positive location. That is why I believe that a gravestone, with poor or misinterpreted information, should be supplemented with the best historical facts available, if possible. After all, it is Find a Grave, not "Find a Stone". Sometimes, nothing else is available, but that is a sad case; unknown, with unknown dates does not tell us much, especially when there is no stone or it is illegible.
I hope to help & will gladly transfer, edit, delete or correct anything I contribute; I'm slow, but I'm OLD, please have patience!


Suprise! Thanks so much to Renee for the Sponsorship of Our Sweet Rose...what an honor to be cared for by such a dedicated animal lover.

I am grateful AGAIN to Love Always, Renee for the sponsorship of my beloved Daddy - what a generous contributor she is...check out her loving memorials!


PLEASE NOTE: Check the top center of your profile page - if an "edit" tab is there - you need to click on it and check to approve or reject any edits that may have been sent to you - only a few email "edit" notices are coming from fag since this new feature was added.

Sorry, I have to laugh.... recently seen on a gravestone, (wife's, Jo Ann's stone) "DO NOT STAND AT MY GRAVE AND CRY, I AM NOT HERE, I DID NOT DIE" ...alongside on the husband's stone, "JO ANN - IF WE DID NOT DIE, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE?".... [ I SAID I'm sorry! ]
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Shryl Kirkbride
Parmelia Gates
Hello Cousin,

I have corrected her birth date to 1871 per her obit in the Reno Gazette. Thanks for bringing the error to my attention.

How's your research coming along?
Added by Shryl Kirkbride on Feb 22, 2017 1:07 PM
Shryl Kirkbride
RE: 156562279
I worked all day on your husbands family history tying it into mine. Feel free to check out my ancestry family tree (kirkbride21) Gates Family Tree.
I live in Arizona. Where are you?
Added by Shryl Kirkbride on Feb 04, 2017 4:39 PM
Shryl Kirkbride
RE: 156562279
Hi Shirleen,

I went back through some of my records and have corrected the information based on my findings.

On the 1900 Census he lists his date of birth as June 1851. All of the census, 1860-1930, lists his birthplace as Tennessee. The only records I found of his birthplace listed as Texas is on his voters registrations of 1875 and 1882.

I have corrected this information both on my ancestry trees as well as the Find A Grave Site. I have also tried to link both children as well as his ex wife, Mary Pauline Davis.

I would like to get a copy of his death certificate as it will show me where is buried and how he died.

Any information you have on him is greatly appreciated.

Distant Cousin,
Added by Shryl Kirkbride on Feb 03, 2017 1:44 PM
Richard Sandiford
I am trying to locate Richard Sandiford.
I have made a few phone calls and cannot find where he was moved to once the Saint Louis City Cemetery-Rutger was closed down.
Do you have any more information?
If so could you please share this with me.
Added by Elaine on Feb 01, 2017 3:11 PM
RE: OMGosh
You will like this, too:

Genealogy without documentation is mythology. Many other articles with the same phrasing if you want to do a search for more including Genealogy without sources is mythology.
Added by SLGMSD on Jan 30, 2017 3:17 PM
FYI - for all but Charles Olcott I was able to verify the dates of birth you submitted for edits:
Added by SLGMSD on Jan 30, 2017 1:03 PM
Received your message about family records. I had quite a few of those myself. Then, someone in my genealogy group started talking about Do Over Genealogy:

That changed how I look at the "facts" that have no sources.

Also Elizabeth Shown Mills:

Regarding District of Columbia death certificates you are absolutely correct. In some cases the individual may have two certificates of death - one for the state in which they died and one for the District since they were interred in a District cemetery.
Added by SLGMSD on Jan 30, 2017 1:01 PM
Judy Ames
Marriet Wicks
I noticed the problem with the date also and was planning another trip to Bemis Cemetery to look again at her stone. It probably actually says 1843. Since she was 22 at her time of death that would make her date of birth about 1819. I'll make these corrections now.
Added by Judy Ames on Jan 24, 2017 10:09 AM
Judy Ames
RE: 54257502
Thank you for the nice note! My husband and I sometimes explore the small, local cemeteries to see what we might learn about community history and to try and fulfill photo requests. The Bemis Cemetery was recently cleaned up by the Antwerp Masonic Lodge. It was just luck that we chose that cemetery to visit!
Added by Judy Ames on Jan 23, 2017 9:43 AM
Don Calhoun
RE: 139600677
I don't usually go too deep on pedigree research, we gotta leave some work for the real relatives.
But....If I run across a glitch, I'll send a memorial for you to do some intense research.

Added by Don Calhoun on Jan 20, 2017 8:26 PM
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