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Wayne & Janet Brawner (#47163288)
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Wendy Redman Hudson
RE: Cochran Family
Yes, these are the people I suspect are Mathew's "people". Washington an uncle and Benjamin his grandfather - if my hunch is correct. Samuel Weir Cochran his father - maybe.
Added by Wendy Redman Hudson on Feb 23, 2017 10:20 AM
Wendy Redman Hudson
RE: Palmer Memorial Pictures
I will this evening if that is okay. I have appointments this afternoon.
Added by Wendy Redman Hudson on Feb 23, 2017 10:17 AM
Wendy Redman Hudson
RE: Palmer Memorial Pictures
That is a very kind offer, Wayne. My story starts in South Carolina in the early 1800s. The records from then are very scarce due to the fact that records just weren't kept then and many were destroyed during the Civil War. My family did not come to Illinois until the fall of 1860. My gr.-gr-grandfather was a farmer in the Biggsville area for almost 30 years. When he left South Carolina it was the beginning of the Civil War. He was not sympathetic to the Confederate cause and did not want to fight for slavery. He did not want to be involved in a war he did not believe in. However, his father and brothers were slave holders, from what I can tell, and did not support his decision. My thoughts are that after he left he was basically disowned by his South Carolina family and never spoken of again. I think this sort of thing happened a lot during the Civil War. I have a very strong hunch who his family was, but just need the proof. I am working with some people in South Carolina and hope to find some answers soon. His name was Mathew Cochran and his info is on his Find A Grave memorial in the Smith Creek Cemetery where your people are. I have not removed his memorial from there, yet. I am waiting on Find A Grave to make the changes I have requested. I will then "move" him and his son, Harvey, to the correct cemetery where I have found two other children buried. Have a great day! And THANKS!
Added by Wendy Redman Hudson on Feb 23, 2017 5:25 AM
Wendy Redman Hudson
RE: Palmer Memorial Pictures
Thanks so much for the kind words! Aren't these "Breakthroughs" so much fun! I don't even care if it's not "my people". I am SO glad I could help!

I remember the day a few months back when I FINALLY found my gr-gr-grandfather's death record and burial place (through the lady at the courthouse). Everyone always said he died and was buried in Kansas. It made no sense since he lived in Illinois. First I found his will - in Illinois - so just on a whim I called the courthouse. Yep! There he was! SO exciting. Now I am focusing my research on Abbeville, SC as that is where he was born. I am trying to figure out who his parents are. I have a pretty strong hunch - but need the proof.

I am anxiously waiting for Find A Grave to make the correction on the cemetery name so I can get the "other" Smith Creek Cemetery up and going. I want to get my people laid to rest in the correct place - no matter how horrible it looks. I have found 4 of them buried there so that has helped me a lot!

Good Luck with your search. I hope you find Amos Tyler Morris soon! Keep in touch!

Added by Wendy Redman Hudson on Feb 22, 2017 5:53 AM
Wendy Redman Hudson
RE: Palmer Memorial Pictures
I heard back from the lady at the courthouse in Oquawka. She did not find Amos Tyler Morris or William H. Mills in her records. That doesn't mean they aren't there, but their deaths were not recorded there. She said that time frame is so "iffy". Sorry they weren't there.

Added by Wendy Redman Hudson on Feb 21, 2017 3:30 PM
Wendy Redman Hudson
RE: Palmer Memorial Pictures
Hi, Wayne. After looking closer at the headstone for Susaniseta I think it says daughter of "I" and "H" not "L" and "H" like the record says. I did some searching on Ancestry and Amos Tyler and Joann Morris had a son named Isaac N. He was married to Hannah Hollingsworth. This could be your "I" and "H". She might have been the daughter of Isaac and Hannah and the granddaughter of Joann and Amos. There would be no record of her death at the courthouse as they didn't keep records that early. I believe they started around the 1870s. In all the trees on ancestry that show Isaac and Hannah there is no mention of Susaniseta. But that doesn't mean she wasn't their daughter. Something else to mull around. I see Isaac is buried in Bethel Cemetery in Topeka, KS
Added by Wendy Redman Hudson on Feb 20, 2017 2:03 PM
Wendy Redman Hudson
RE: Palmer Memorial Pictures
Wayne, I added pictures to Susaniseta and Theodore's memorials. I am SO sorry, but I do not seem to have a picture of Charles' headstone. The cemetery records say he is on the same stone as Joann and Theodore. I do not remember seeing it, but I could very easily have missed it. When I took those photos I only did so because I was there and thought I would add them to the cemetery at some point. I had NO idea I would be needing them so soon. I feel SO bad. I put pictures on Joann's memorial that Deb has. I suppose she will add it to the Cemetery soon. I did not get the best picture of her stone. I was using my ipad (which I never use for pictures) as my "cemetery" camera was not working right for me. I am not very experienced with the ipad for pictures. Feel free to request another picture for her if you want a better one. I won't be insulted at all.

Also, check the picture for Susaniseta closely. The records say she might have died in 1850. I can almost see it looking like 1856. If that is the case she would have died within days of Charles Wellington. Just something else to explore.

Again, so sorry about the picture for Charles. I'm sure you will get one from someone......or I will just have to go back! I would actually love to do that. Beautiful country and nice people.

Added by Wendy Redman Hudson on Feb 20, 2017 1:33 PM
Find A Grave Memorial# 138216311 Joanna Lantz Morris
She is my ggg grandmother so we must be cousins. Do you have any information on her parents?

Thank you for your message.
Added by Deb on Feb 20, 2017 8:50 AM
Wendy Redman Hudson
RE: Palmer Memorial Pictures
Well, there you go! So glad I could help! Isn't this all just so fun and exciting! I forgot today is President's Day so the courthouse in Oquawka is closed. I am sure I will hear from the lady there tomorrow.

To answer your question....yes, please create any and all memorials that you want. When you get them done put in a photo request and I will add the photos I have. I will be watching for them. You are SO lucky there are headstones for your ancestors. I think I told you there are not very many there.

I can't remember if I told you that the headstone with your three Morris people has the inscription "Our Mother and Brother".

I would like to add that you should check into Joanna Morris on Find A Grave. There is a memorial already created for her that is not associated with any cemetery. People are still trying to "locate" her. You may want to ask the person to delete their memorial or at least you two could merge information. Her name is "Deb" and she has a memorial created for Amos Tyler as well.

Also, I have put in a request to Find A Grave to change the name of "your" cemetery to its full name - Smith Creek Christian Cemetery. There is another small(and very abandoned) cemetery by the name Smith Creek Cemetery that is not too far from the one where your family is buried. That is where MY family is buried. It is not listed on Find A Grave and I want to get it on there and add the people buried there. I don't want to create a bunch of confusion between the two by having the same name. But my Smith Creek is in such deplorable shape that the people buried there will soon be lost forever if I don't get them added to Find A Grave. The last burial there was my Great-Great-Grandfather in 1886. You can't even imagine what it looks like. So SAD!

Have a good day. Talk later.

Added by Wendy Redman Hudson on Feb 20, 2017 5:29 AM
Wendy Redman Hudson
RE: Palmer Memorial Pictures
Hi, Wayne. I have the cemetery records of the Smith Creek Cemetery (Smith Creek Christian Church Cemetery). I don't know how complete they are but I can tell you that there are 4 Morris burials in the cemetery. None of them are the people you are looking for. I will give you the names in case they tie in with your family somehow.

Charles Wellington Morris - died Apr. 18, 1856 Age 1yr. 6m. 2d.

Joann Morris - died Jan. 9, 1878 age 85 yr. 7 m. 14 d.

Theodore Morris - died Sept. 9, 1845 age 24 yr. 8 m. 19 d.

These three people share a headstone. I will get the picture added soon.

Also, there is a Susaniseta Morris. Daughter of L & H died Apr. 16, 1870 (or 1850) age 3 yr. 6
m. 4 d.

I have done a little research. I found Amos Anthony Morris and his wife Rebecca Tyler Morris buried in the Morris Cemetery in Monongalia County in West Virginia. Just type his full name and the county and state and he should pop up. His memorial lists all his children, etc. Even has a headstone picture! Yay! Maybe you already knew this........

I found mention of their son, Amos Tyler Morris, who is the father of your Sarah Jane Palmer. Several people on Ancestry say he died in Osage County, Kansas (Lamont Hill). I don't think anyone really knows exactly where he is buried. There is a memorial for him on Find A Grave. It has no place of burial and the person that created the memorial is asking for help in finding where he is buried. On the memorial it says that he is probably buried in Oquawka, IL. Darn! I was just there. I have a "connection" at the courthouse there and I will check with her to see if there is a burial. She is VERY helpful. I will email her now so she has it first thing in the morning. Will let you know!

Added by Wendy Redman Hudson on Feb 19, 2017 6:36 PM
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