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SRB (#47801585)
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Currently working on a project involving the original sexton's burial records of the First Presbyterian Churchyard, Elizabeth, NJ, from 1766-1916. Records for these years are mostly complete, and there are many names in the records that are not on FindAGrave (yet...). If you are looking for a specific burial, send me a message and I will look it up for you. If I don't respond to your request in a week, leave me another message. I am happy to help.

My Pet peeve: Do NOT add memorials with captions like "Possibly buried here." The website is FIND a Grave!!!!! Try your best to confirm the burial.

If you have anything to add to a memorial, please let me know. Also, I am happy to transfer, just contact me.

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John Glassford
Greetings from Massachusetts !

Thank you for the information about my cenotaph of Colonel Jacob D. Edwards at Dodges Row, Beverly, Mass. Memorial# 61214231 . I have noted my memorial as a cenotaph and have notified Rich the manager of the true memorial down in NJ , Memorial# 7688207 . When you get a chance, please read the interesting article I placed on my memorial regarding Jacob's death.

Best Wishes,
John Glassford
Added by John Glassford on Aug 30, 2017 6:08 PM
RE: Kress
Thanks for the offer to transfer, but not necessary. Doubt I will be adding any additional info.
Added by madgalb on Aug 11, 2017 10:36 AM
RE: Delos Fall, #8522244
I descend from his twin brother, DeWitt, so yes. Are you related?
Added by billfall on Aug 03, 2017 7:11 AM
Mary Months
Hannah Craine
Thank you for looking for the headstone of Hannah Craine in the 1st Presbyterian Churchyard at Elizabeth. It's too bad that there is no record but I appreciate the time and effort that you put into looking for it. Thanks! Mary
Added by Mary Months on Jul 26, 2017 5:07 PM
C.A. Brooman
Re Elias Winans (181140464)
Sorry, I haven't been ignoring your edit. I've been doing some research on the question of the length of time between death and burial in Colonial America.

The wealthiest individuals (which Elias was) had quite elaborate burials. First, the closest relatives and friends would be given black gloves (hand-made) and other personal items (sometimes gold jewelry, etc.), along with a printed ticket announcing the time of the service ("memento mori"). The body was then laid out in the home where s/he lived, and the home itself was draped with black cloth.

A coffin had to be purchased and/or constructed. Some were elaborate, with fancy handles, lead covering, etc. The coffin, too, was draped with cloth, color dependent upon age and sex of deceased.

The neighbors and fellow church members would all pitch in to prepare a feast at the home of the deceased.

Funerals changed from the time of the pilgrims, who believed in simplicity, and would silently dump the body in the grave. That was early 17th C. This was late 18th C.

Honestly, I can't believe this could all be done in the same day. I believe that the funeral preparations would have taken at least a day, and probably longer. But then I acknowledge that this was the end of August, and embalming was not yet available. So, I felt as though three days would be pushing the envelope. Which is why I settled on two days.

I'm still trying to find a knowledgeable source who would know what the average length of time was from death to burial.
Added by C.A. Brooman on Jul 25, 2017 4:36 PM
C.A. Brooman
RE: Winans in First Presbyterian Churchyard
I really doubted that Frances Finley was buried in the First Presbyterian Churchyard, so you just confirmed that. She died much later than her Winans ancestors, and not in Elizabethtown, but in Newark Ward 9 (1870 census). I felt nearly 99.9 percent certain with Elias about burial location, but not so with Frances.

Her will stated that her executor should
"purchase a lot of ground in some cemetery in the City of Newark or its vicinity; that my remains be interred therein; the said lot to be suitably enclosed [whatever that means??]; and a monument erected such as my Executor may deem suitable and proper; the whole at an expense not to exceed one thousand dollars."

From "City of Newark or its vicinity," I gathered that she was likely buried pretty close to Newark. There are many cemeteries in the area, but a large number are Jewish, which can be ruled out. I checked many of the rest (you can do a given name search at individual cemeteries, but not from the FindAGrave main search page). There are a number of old Newark cemeteries that are now defunct, I noted. (Turned into industrial lots without permission, removed to make more church parking, etc.) What a shame.

Thanks for the suggestion re writing a physical letter to NJHS.
Added by C.A. Brooman on Jul 20, 2017 3:08 PM
C.A. Brooman
RE: Winans in First Presbyterian Churchyard
I was pretty sure that Elias was buried there! Thanks for the burial date, which does help with the probable date of death. (Usually it was no more than a day or two from death to burial back then, so I made his date of death on 26 Aug 1784. Close enough.)

I ended up creating a page for him. #181140464

He was the son of Samuel and Hannah (Ogden) Winans, which I pieced together from his will (as well as married names of some sisters). When I looked at his father's will, he did have an Elias, Jonathan and Samuel alive at time it was written in 1758 (although wasn't probated until 1770s), and some of the same land that Elias apparently got after the deaths of his youngest brothers.


There is one person I would really like to find, now that you ask. :) But I don't know where she's buried. Just somewhere in Newark. Her maiden name was Frances Winans, although not the daughter of Samuel and Hannah. Probably named after her though, because she was their granddaughter, the daughter of Jonathan. (The one who died of smallpox.) She was born c.1766, and was mentioned in Elias's will in 1784. He gave her land. She was married twice. Her second husband was Thomas Finley, so she would be buried under the name Frances Finley. He was once the headmaster of Newark Academy from c. 1796-1802, then part of their classical dept. (Latin, etc.) til 1809 or so. Frances didn't die until 7 Jul 1871! Supposedly the New Jersey Historical Society has pastel portraits of her and Mr. Finley. I sent them an email asking for more information, but got no reply. I have a nice bio written about her, but don't know where she's buried, so can't put it up. She was the first wife of my 4th great grandfather, and the mother of his first six children, including a U.S. Congressman, William Stanbery (1788-1873). Thanks if you have some lists you can check! There also may have been obits about her in local papers, due to her age being over 100. (They thought 102, but I believe she was more like 105.)

Added by C.A. Brooman on Jul 18, 2017 1:47 PM
RE: Seth Wheaton
Hi Sean,
So where are the rest of the photos? Is there a link to them? You can email them to me if you like, THERESE
Added by TES on Jul 16, 2017 4:02 PM
Photo of Wheeler Martin's Headstone (#33503151)
Thanks very much for fulfilling my photo request. You have far more interesting gravestones to find than we do out here on the left coast! Thanks again for your efforts--I really appreciate it.
Added by Garaygen on Jul 16, 2017 11:52 AM
Dave Peck
RE: Cornelius Hetfield
If you get a chance to take another photo of Cornelius at a little distance it would help in finding it. I was there in the rain on 5/5 and only found the son Cornelius and dau.-in-law Abigail # 9363323. Their stones are unreadable with moss and mildew. Son Cornelius' stone is falling apart but Abigail's might clean up with a soft brush and some water. I will try to find Abigail's father Benjamin Price next time whose stone looks good in the photo. I am from upstate NY so it will be awhile before I can get down again.
Thanks again for your help and all the work you are doing there.
Added by Dave Peck on May 08, 2017 4:58 PM
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