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John Traherne

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John Traherne

Birth
Death
22 Aug
Burial
Southwark, London Borough of Southwark, Greater London, England Add to Map
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In the ‘Annals of St Mary Overy’ written by William Taylor in 1833, it says that under the monument there used to be a gravestone that read:

"Under this marble doth the body rest of John Traherne, that served Queen Elizabeth, and died chief gentleman porter to King James, the 22nd daie of October, Anno D’ni 1618. Here also resteth Margaret, the wife of the said John Traherne, who lived together man and wife 50 years, and died 22 of January, Anno D’ni 1645. Here also lieth John Traherne, eldest son of the said John and Margaret, who died chief clerke of the kitchen to King James the First, 22nd of August, Anno D’ni, 1645."
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The years of death for Margaret and son, John, are incorrect. According to the will of the elder John Trehearne, his wife and son were already deceased at the time his will was written, July 24, 1618.
One popular assumption is that Margaret and son, John, died in 1615 and due to the age and wearing, the marker was misread as saying 1645.
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According to the London Metropolitan Archives, the will of John Treherne, gentleman, of St Saviour, porter of the king's gate, contains the following information:

Date written: 1618 July 24, with a codicil dated September 6.
Date proved: 1618 October 28.

Family members named: John Treherne, Leonard Treherne, Mary Treherne, and Anne Treherne his underage grandchildren, children of John Treherne his son, deceased. Christopher Griffin, Treherne Griffin, Margaret Griffin, Agnes Griffin, and Joyce Griffin, underage children of Ann Griffin his daughter, wife of Edward Griffin. William Harris, son of his daughter Sara by her former husband Thomas Harris deceased. Sara Draper, John Draper, Henry Draper, Rebecca Draper, Edward Draper, and Thomas Draper, underage children of his daughter Sara by her former husband Henry Draper deceased. William Iremonger, son of his daughter Sara by her now husband William Iremonger gentleman.

Others named: Eleanor Cooke his late servant. John Greene, scrivener, his loving friend and countryman. George Payne his neighbor.

Co-Executors: Edward Griffin and William Iremonger his sons in law.
Overseers: John Greene, George Payne, and Richard Yearwood.
Witnesses: To the will: Thomas Sutton; Richard Wright; Francis Winton; John Greene, scrivener; Arthur Juxon. To the codicil: John Greene, scrivener; Philip Powle.

Testator affirmed his will with a mark not a signature. Testator is somewhat weak in body. Asks to be buried in St Saviour church near where his wife and his son John Treherne are buried. Bequests to the poor of the Clink, the Upper Ground, and the Boroughside of St Saviour parish. Bequests to the churchwardens and vestry of St Saviour, and to the Company of Clothworkers ‘whereof I am free’. Has a ‘great messuage’ in St Saviour, where he dwells, and also a messuage in Three Naked Boys Alley in St Olave parish. Has a lease to property in Pincock Lane in St Nicholas Shambles, London. Has a house called the Horseshoe on the Bankside in St Saviour parish, which once belonged to Gilbert Rocket. Has property in Challock, Kent, held jointly with Thomas Lake, gentleman.

[Reference: TNA, Prob.11/132, ff.203r-206v (register copy).]

Source:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~ingram/StSaviour/wills-t.html#trehernejohn01
In the ‘Annals of St Mary Overy’ written by William Taylor in 1833, it says that under the monument there used to be a gravestone that read:

"Under this marble doth the body rest of John Traherne, that served Queen Elizabeth, and died chief gentleman porter to King James, the 22nd daie of October, Anno D’ni 1618. Here also resteth Margaret, the wife of the said John Traherne, who lived together man and wife 50 years, and died 22 of January, Anno D’ni 1645. Here also lieth John Traherne, eldest son of the said John and Margaret, who died chief clerke of the kitchen to King James the First, 22nd of August, Anno D’ni, 1645."
___________________________________________________________

The years of death for Margaret and son, John, are incorrect. According to the will of the elder John Trehearne, his wife and son were already deceased at the time his will was written, July 24, 1618.
One popular assumption is that Margaret and son, John, died in 1615 and due to the age and wearing, the marker was misread as saying 1645.
_________________________________________________________

According to the London Metropolitan Archives, the will of John Treherne, gentleman, of St Saviour, porter of the king's gate, contains the following information:

Date written: 1618 July 24, with a codicil dated September 6.
Date proved: 1618 October 28.

Family members named: John Treherne, Leonard Treherne, Mary Treherne, and Anne Treherne his underage grandchildren, children of John Treherne his son, deceased. Christopher Griffin, Treherne Griffin, Margaret Griffin, Agnes Griffin, and Joyce Griffin, underage children of Ann Griffin his daughter, wife of Edward Griffin. William Harris, son of his daughter Sara by her former husband Thomas Harris deceased. Sara Draper, John Draper, Henry Draper, Rebecca Draper, Edward Draper, and Thomas Draper, underage children of his daughter Sara by her former husband Henry Draper deceased. William Iremonger, son of his daughter Sara by her now husband William Iremonger gentleman.

Others named: Eleanor Cooke his late servant. John Greene, scrivener, his loving friend and countryman. George Payne his neighbor.

Co-Executors: Edward Griffin and William Iremonger his sons in law.
Overseers: John Greene, George Payne, and Richard Yearwood.
Witnesses: To the will: Thomas Sutton; Richard Wright; Francis Winton; John Greene, scrivener; Arthur Juxon. To the codicil: John Greene, scrivener; Philip Powle.

Testator affirmed his will with a mark not a signature. Testator is somewhat weak in body. Asks to be buried in St Saviour church near where his wife and his son John Treherne are buried. Bequests to the poor of the Clink, the Upper Ground, and the Boroughside of St Saviour parish. Bequests to the churchwardens and vestry of St Saviour, and to the Company of Clothworkers ‘whereof I am free’. Has a ‘great messuage’ in St Saviour, where he dwells, and also a messuage in Three Naked Boys Alley in St Olave parish. Has a lease to property in Pincock Lane in St Nicholas Shambles, London. Has a house called the Horseshoe on the Bankside in St Saviour parish, which once belonged to Gilbert Rocket. Has property in Challock, Kent, held jointly with Thomas Lake, gentleman.

[Reference: TNA, Prob.11/132, ff.203r-206v (register copy).]

Source:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~ingram/StSaviour/wills-t.html#trehernejohn01

Inscription

AN EPITAPH UPON JOHN TREHEARNE
GENTLEMAN PORTAR TO KING
JAMES THE FIRST,
HAD KINGS A POWER TO LEND THEIR SUBJECTS BREATH
TREHEARNE THOU SHOULD'ST NOT BE CAST DOWN BY DEATH THY ROYAL MASTER STILL WOULD KEEP THEE THEN
BUT LENGTH OF DAYS ARE BEYOND REACH OF MEN
NOR WEALTH, NOR STRENGTH OR GREATMEN'S LOVE CAN EASE
THE WOUND DEATH'S ARROWS MAKE FOR THOU HAST THESE
IN THY KING'S COURT GOOD PLACE TO THEE IS GIVEN
WHENCE THOU SHALT GO TO YE KINGS COURT OF HEAVEN



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  • Created by: Lora U. Tatum
  • Added: May 2, 2017
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  • Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/178985804/john-traherne: accessed ), memorial page for John Traherne (unknown–22 Aug), Find a Grave Memorial ID 178985804, citing Southwark Cathedral, Southwark, London Borough of Southwark, Greater London, England; Maintained by Lora U. Tatum (contributor 48564843).