Rev Seth Maness Sr.

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Rev Seth Maness Sr.

Birth
Bedford County, Virginia, USA
Death
1852 (aged 89–90)
Rogersville, Hawkins County, Tennessee, USA
Burial
Eidson, Hawkins County, Tennessee, USA Add to Map
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They would be my 5th GREAT grandparents..

source: Familysearch.org Several Family Trees
HERE Is the NOTE: NOTES (1)
Information Received from Tom Manes on October 1998
The Family of Seth Manis, born Feb 1762 in Bedford Co. Va.,and died 1852 in Hawkins Co. Tenn. at the age of 90. Married Susan "Patsy" Fields, born 1763, died 1853 in Hawkins Co. Tenn., age of 90.
Both are buried on the old home place, north of Rogersville, Tennessee.
Jacob Wilson Manes - born 1782
William Manis - Born 1782
George Manes - born 1785
Jesse Manis - born 1790
Elizabeth Manis - born 1794
John Manis - born 1795
James Manis Tempa Manes - born between 1800-1810

The records of a court hearing, held in Hawkins County, Tenn. June7,1832 in order for Seth Manis to Obtain a Revolutionary War Pension shows the Seth was born Feburary,1762, in Bedford county Va.
This record shows that he moved from Va. to Moore County, NC.
No definite date of this of his arrival has been established.
We have found no actual proof, but I feel, as others do, that Seth was the son Of William, born 1735. If he was early age, for William was found on the banks of the Bear Creek in Moore County in 1765.
We do know that Seth was there on Sept. 1,1780, at the age of 18, for that was when he entered the Service of his county.
Seth, at the age of 28, was not included as the head of a family in 1790 census. He was either missed of was possibly living with William, who had 16 people living in his house at the time.
Letter written in 1920 by Seth's grandson, Samuel Jasper Manes, states that his grandmother's name was Patsy Fields.

No record of this marriage was found in Moore County.
Patsy was born in 1763.
It is hard to set the date that Seth moved from Moore County to Hawkins County, Tenn.
Jacob Wilson and William Seth's first and second sons, were born in Moore County.
Census records show that Seth's third son, John, was born about 1795 in Tenn, so Seth was the in 1795.
He was also included in the 1800 tax list, Hawkins County, Tenn.
All of the Manis Family may not have moved have moved at one time.

In a biographical sketch on Seth's grandson, Dalzel Manis,, it is stated that his parents, William and Lydia (Lawson) Manis, were natives of the Old North State, but after their marriage moved to Tenn.
FOUND: The Will of "William Manis" "Wife, Lydia" and son CAMPBELL...........
FOUND a DEATH CERT for Rev. Dallas L Manis and his son George Manis states, "Dallas L Manis FATHER: Campbell Manis}

The age of William in 1795 would have been 13 yrs, too young to leave behind. William, however, may have gone back to NC, to get married.
William's first child was born about 1800 in Tennessee. Seth lived 7 miles North of Rogersville, Tennessee, on the North Side of the Clinch Mountain.
The records show that in 1831, Seth's sons William, John,and Jesse, all acquired land on the North side of the Clinch Mountain.
Seth didn't show up in the census records until 1840, in Hawkins Co. He was also listed on this census as a Revolutionary War pensioner, age 78.
Another record shows that Seth was still drawing his pension of $20.00 per annul in 1840.
The sixth Federal census - 1840 Hawkins County, Tennessee Seth Manis born 1760 - 1770 One female born 1760 - 1770
The biographical sketch on Seth's grandson, Dalzel Manis,shows that Seth and his wife both died at the age of 90, putting the date of Seth's death in the year 1852, and his wife Patsy, in the year 1853. Both are buried on the North side of Clinch Mountain.
Excerpts from letter written by Samuel Jasper Manes to Jesse D Gustin in 1920.
"Grandfather Seth Manes was in the Revolutionary War." "Grandfather Manes had 6 boys. His name was Seth. Grandmothers name was Patsy Fields. My fathers name was Jacob, then William, John,George, James, and Jesse." "Fathers brothers, all but George, lived and died in Tenn. George got imminsley rich and died in Searcy County, Arkansas."
"My grandfather Seth Manes, was very peculiar man-had his price on everything. I remember his price on corn was 50 cents, no difference how low it got nor how high it got, just 50 cents was all he would take." "After a few years,he had stored up a big lot of corn and a dry year came. One day, ten wagons drove up, drawn by two yoke of oxen. Each had come about 75 miles after corn. That was quite a distance over the rough roads of Tennessee (approx.1795). Grandfather told them they could not buy his corn. They insisted that they had come a long way and care nothing for the price and had the money to pay him. He said, "I know you have the money,and that is just why you can't have my corn. My price for corn is 50 cents per bushel, n more no less, but i have neibours here that haven't any money and the can't buy corn just anywhere like you men that have money, and I am going to save the corn for them away and sold all his corn to the poor neighbors on credit, and that trait has cropped out occasionally all along the line in the Manes Family.
Declaration of Seth Manis in order to obtain the benifits of the Act of Congress of the 7th June,1832. STATE OF TENNESSEE) HAWKINS COUNTY) On the 24th day of November,1835, personally appeared in open court Seth Manis, resident of Hawkins county and State of Tennessee, age 73 and 9 months who, being first duly sworn according to law,doth on his oath make the following declatation in order to obtain the benifit the provision made by the act of Congress passes June 7th,1832.
That he enter the service of the United States in the year 1780, the first of September, under the command of Captain Williams in the regiment of Col. Casswell in Moore County, State of North Carolina.
"We met at Bar Creek, a tributary stream of Deep River, I was drafted in the service. We march for the poupose of intercepting small parties of Tories and British which were going through the county and doing mischief. We went on through Chatham County aand some other Counties which I do not recollect. We crossed Cape Fear River twice in our route, we went on on towards Williamington. We marched a Southwest course marched were outling Tories near Peedee River when we met with one Fannin, at a place called Baties Bridge. We, in the actin, had to retreat. We collected together after the Battle and marched towards Moore County where we arrived about the first of January,1781. I served in the capacity of Private. I was gone four months." "I volunteered myself again first of February,1781 under Captain Williams and Col. Butler to go after Fannin and his men. The report was he was a going to attack Hillsborough. I went out of Moore County, State of North Carolina amd marched for Hillsbourgh. We attacked Fannin at Lindsy Mill where we had a sharp action with Him. Hw retreated and we did not take him nor any of his men. We recruted out forces ans still cautiously pursued him and his men on down towards Willington until our Col. thought it dangerous to follow him any further. We returned to Hillsborough, lay there for sometime,scouted about through the County after Tories and guarding the Town and neighborhood. We then marched Tories and guarding the town and neighborhood. We then marched for Moore County. We arrived home first of May,1781. I received no discharge, was dismissed and returned home, being gone four months."
I served in the capacity of private sometime in the month of September,1781, I think about the middle as well as I now recollect. I volunteered myself again under Captain Williams and Col. Butler to march to Yorktown against the British. We marched on to Hillsborough where we were stationed in waiting for Levies to come and join us but, while we lay there,we received news that Cornwallis surrendered and we did not go. We then marched back and I was discharged, being gone one month and never was out anymore."
This declarant says he always served with an embodied Corps, called into service by compitent authority, that he was either in the field, on march, or in Camp and that for time during in the field, on march, or in Camp and that for the time during which the service was performed he was not imploied in any civil pursuit.
This declarant says he has no documentary evidence of his service nor knows of no one who can prove the same by.
The Clergyman who presides over the Church to which he belongs is in another County and at some considerable distance, so he can not without a great deal of (trouble-?) procure one to sign his declaration. He hereby relinquishes every claim to to a pension or annuity whatever exerpt the present and declares his name is not on the pension roll of any state whatever.
CITING THIS RECORD
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "Pedigree Resource File," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:M11Z-TZM : accessed 2015-08-06), entry for Seth I Manes, submitted by jdevaul2704684. ANCESTRAL FILE Number--35F9-Z52
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from the familysearch.org TREE of Seth Manes

this particular section of info gives no "creator" but there is a story of Seth Manis, the farmer. "Seth was born Feb 1762 Bedford Co. VA and died 1842 Hawkins Co TN. age of 90 and married Susan "Patsy" Fields B: 1763 and died 1853 Hawkins TN. Both are buried in the old home place, on the North side of Clinch Mountain, 7 miles north of Rogersville, TN." (see the Manis cemetery photo looks like the north side of the mountain)
She also lists the children of Seth and wife Susan Patsy Fields who were married "1782 Knoxville, TN.

:1840 Event Place Hawkins County, Tennessee
Event Type Census
:HEAD OF Household
:Name Seth Manis (born 1762 WOULD BE 78)
Free White Males= 70-80=1
Free White Females=70-80=1 (PATSY FIELDS born 1763 would be 77)
Page 235
:LINE #8
:AND 8 LINES down the road IS
:Anderson FIELDS
:AND 5 more farms away is
::Clinton MANIS=-5=1 / 20-30=1
:Females= -5=1 / 20-30=1
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1840," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHYL-TXX : 24 August 2015), Seth Manis, Hawkins, Tennessee, United States; citing p. 235, NARA microfilm publication M704, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 526; FHL microfilm 24,546.

CHILDREN:
John Maner
Jacob Wilson
William (Billy) Mar.: Lydia
George
Jesse
Elizabeth
John
James
Tempa

Grandchildren not found/or linked to their parents.
Joseph T. son of William/Lydia

"There is a town called Manes in Wright County MO. named after a Seth Manes." "Manes takes its name from a Baptist minister of Richland, Missouri by the name of Seth Manes. A missionary church was established in Manes in 1893 and in 1894 the first church was built in Manes. This building was used until 1925 when the current Baptist church building was erected." (wikipedia-Manes, Missouri--this does not state WHICH Seth Manes it is named for)

Morticia has asked that his Title: Rev. be added, sorry I did know that but forgot to add it. Seth's g-g-grandson, my g-grampa Albert was also a Baptist Preacher.

sources: census records for the "Preacher"
and DAR Gene..
MANIS, SETH ------Ancestor #: A073377
Notice: DATA IN THE PENDING CORRECTIONS (WHY?)
Service: NORTH CAROLINA Rank: PRIVATE
Birth: 2- -1762 BEDFORD CO VIRGINIA
Death: ANTE 3- -1849 HAWKINS CO TENNESSEE
Pension Number: S2739
Service Source: *S2739
Service Description: 1) CAPT WILLIAMS, COL BUTLER

Created: 2013-02-07 10:58:30.0, Updated: 2013-02-07 10:58:30.0, By: 1) DATA IN PENDING CORRECTION FILE RE: MAIDEN NAME OF SON JACOB'S WIFE MARY

Created: 2013-02-07 10:58:30.0, Updated: 2013-02-07 10:58:30.0, By: 2) JANE. 02/2013

Residence --Created: 2002-11-13 11:04:44.997, Updated: 2013-04-02 09:12:35.0, By: 1) County: CUMBERLAND CO-ENL - State: NORTH CAROLINA

Spouse: PATSY FIELD

AND several family trees on Familysearch.org
they mostly agree with this.

Suggested edit: This is not a photo of Seth I. It is of Seth McCauley Manes (Seth II) and his brothers. The grandsons of Seth 1.
The original picture is found here with names http://sites.rootsweb.com/~mopulask/manes.htm
They would be my 5th GREAT grandparents..

source: Familysearch.org Several Family Trees
HERE Is the NOTE: NOTES (1)
Information Received from Tom Manes on October 1998
The Family of Seth Manis, born Feb 1762 in Bedford Co. Va.,and died 1852 in Hawkins Co. Tenn. at the age of 90. Married Susan "Patsy" Fields, born 1763, died 1853 in Hawkins Co. Tenn., age of 90.
Both are buried on the old home place, north of Rogersville, Tennessee.
Jacob Wilson Manes - born 1782
William Manis - Born 1782
George Manes - born 1785
Jesse Manis - born 1790
Elizabeth Manis - born 1794
John Manis - born 1795
James Manis Tempa Manes - born between 1800-1810

The records of a court hearing, held in Hawkins County, Tenn. June7,1832 in order for Seth Manis to Obtain a Revolutionary War Pension shows the Seth was born Feburary,1762, in Bedford county Va.
This record shows that he moved from Va. to Moore County, NC.
No definite date of this of his arrival has been established.
We have found no actual proof, but I feel, as others do, that Seth was the son Of William, born 1735. If he was early age, for William was found on the banks of the Bear Creek in Moore County in 1765.
We do know that Seth was there on Sept. 1,1780, at the age of 18, for that was when he entered the Service of his county.
Seth, at the age of 28, was not included as the head of a family in 1790 census. He was either missed of was possibly living with William, who had 16 people living in his house at the time.
Letter written in 1920 by Seth's grandson, Samuel Jasper Manes, states that his grandmother's name was Patsy Fields.

No record of this marriage was found in Moore County.
Patsy was born in 1763.
It is hard to set the date that Seth moved from Moore County to Hawkins County, Tenn.
Jacob Wilson and William Seth's first and second sons, were born in Moore County.
Census records show that Seth's third son, John, was born about 1795 in Tenn, so Seth was the in 1795.
He was also included in the 1800 tax list, Hawkins County, Tenn.
All of the Manis Family may not have moved have moved at one time.

In a biographical sketch on Seth's grandson, Dalzel Manis,, it is stated that his parents, William and Lydia (Lawson) Manis, were natives of the Old North State, but after their marriage moved to Tenn.
FOUND: The Will of "William Manis" "Wife, Lydia" and son CAMPBELL...........
FOUND a DEATH CERT for Rev. Dallas L Manis and his son George Manis states, "Dallas L Manis FATHER: Campbell Manis}

The age of William in 1795 would have been 13 yrs, too young to leave behind. William, however, may have gone back to NC, to get married.
William's first child was born about 1800 in Tennessee. Seth lived 7 miles North of Rogersville, Tennessee, on the North Side of the Clinch Mountain.
The records show that in 1831, Seth's sons William, John,and Jesse, all acquired land on the North side of the Clinch Mountain.
Seth didn't show up in the census records until 1840, in Hawkins Co. He was also listed on this census as a Revolutionary War pensioner, age 78.
Another record shows that Seth was still drawing his pension of $20.00 per annul in 1840.
The sixth Federal census - 1840 Hawkins County, Tennessee Seth Manis born 1760 - 1770 One female born 1760 - 1770
The biographical sketch on Seth's grandson, Dalzel Manis,shows that Seth and his wife both died at the age of 90, putting the date of Seth's death in the year 1852, and his wife Patsy, in the year 1853. Both are buried on the North side of Clinch Mountain.
Excerpts from letter written by Samuel Jasper Manes to Jesse D Gustin in 1920.
"Grandfather Seth Manes was in the Revolutionary War." "Grandfather Manes had 6 boys. His name was Seth. Grandmothers name was Patsy Fields. My fathers name was Jacob, then William, John,George, James, and Jesse." "Fathers brothers, all but George, lived and died in Tenn. George got imminsley rich and died in Searcy County, Arkansas."
"My grandfather Seth Manes, was very peculiar man-had his price on everything. I remember his price on corn was 50 cents, no difference how low it got nor how high it got, just 50 cents was all he would take." "After a few years,he had stored up a big lot of corn and a dry year came. One day, ten wagons drove up, drawn by two yoke of oxen. Each had come about 75 miles after corn. That was quite a distance over the rough roads of Tennessee (approx.1795). Grandfather told them they could not buy his corn. They insisted that they had come a long way and care nothing for the price and had the money to pay him. He said, "I know you have the money,and that is just why you can't have my corn. My price for corn is 50 cents per bushel, n more no less, but i have neibours here that haven't any money and the can't buy corn just anywhere like you men that have money, and I am going to save the corn for them away and sold all his corn to the poor neighbors on credit, and that trait has cropped out occasionally all along the line in the Manes Family.
Declaration of Seth Manis in order to obtain the benifits of the Act of Congress of the 7th June,1832. STATE OF TENNESSEE) HAWKINS COUNTY) On the 24th day of November,1835, personally appeared in open court Seth Manis, resident of Hawkins county and State of Tennessee, age 73 and 9 months who, being first duly sworn according to law,doth on his oath make the following declatation in order to obtain the benifit the provision made by the act of Congress passes June 7th,1832.
That he enter the service of the United States in the year 1780, the first of September, under the command of Captain Williams in the regiment of Col. Casswell in Moore County, State of North Carolina.
"We met at Bar Creek, a tributary stream of Deep River, I was drafted in the service. We march for the poupose of intercepting small parties of Tories and British which were going through the county and doing mischief. We went on through Chatham County aand some other Counties which I do not recollect. We crossed Cape Fear River twice in our route, we went on on towards Williamington. We marched a Southwest course marched were outling Tories near Peedee River when we met with one Fannin, at a place called Baties Bridge. We, in the actin, had to retreat. We collected together after the Battle and marched towards Moore County where we arrived about the first of January,1781. I served in the capacity of Private. I was gone four months." "I volunteered myself again first of February,1781 under Captain Williams and Col. Butler to go after Fannin and his men. The report was he was a going to attack Hillsborough. I went out of Moore County, State of North Carolina amd marched for Hillsbourgh. We attacked Fannin at Lindsy Mill where we had a sharp action with Him. Hw retreated and we did not take him nor any of his men. We recruted out forces ans still cautiously pursued him and his men on down towards Willington until our Col. thought it dangerous to follow him any further. We returned to Hillsborough, lay there for sometime,scouted about through the County after Tories and guarding the Town and neighborhood. We then marched Tories and guarding the town and neighborhood. We then marched for Moore County. We arrived home first of May,1781. I received no discharge, was dismissed and returned home, being gone four months."
I served in the capacity of private sometime in the month of September,1781, I think about the middle as well as I now recollect. I volunteered myself again under Captain Williams and Col. Butler to march to Yorktown against the British. We marched on to Hillsborough where we were stationed in waiting for Levies to come and join us but, while we lay there,we received news that Cornwallis surrendered and we did not go. We then marched back and I was discharged, being gone one month and never was out anymore."
This declarant says he always served with an embodied Corps, called into service by compitent authority, that he was either in the field, on march, or in Camp and that for time during in the field, on march, or in Camp and that for the time during which the service was performed he was not imploied in any civil pursuit.
This declarant says he has no documentary evidence of his service nor knows of no one who can prove the same by.
The Clergyman who presides over the Church to which he belongs is in another County and at some considerable distance, so he can not without a great deal of (trouble-?) procure one to sign his declaration. He hereby relinquishes every claim to to a pension or annuity whatever exerpt the present and declares his name is not on the pension roll of any state whatever.
CITING THIS RECORD
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "Pedigree Resource File," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:M11Z-TZM : accessed 2015-08-06), entry for Seth I Manes, submitted by jdevaul2704684. ANCESTRAL FILE Number--35F9-Z52
'***********************************************************
from the familysearch.org TREE of Seth Manes

this particular section of info gives no "creator" but there is a story of Seth Manis, the farmer. "Seth was born Feb 1762 Bedford Co. VA and died 1842 Hawkins Co TN. age of 90 and married Susan "Patsy" Fields B: 1763 and died 1853 Hawkins TN. Both are buried in the old home place, on the North side of Clinch Mountain, 7 miles north of Rogersville, TN." (see the Manis cemetery photo looks like the north side of the mountain)
She also lists the children of Seth and wife Susan Patsy Fields who were married "1782 Knoxville, TN.

:1840 Event Place Hawkins County, Tennessee
Event Type Census
:HEAD OF Household
:Name Seth Manis (born 1762 WOULD BE 78)
Free White Males= 70-80=1
Free White Females=70-80=1 (PATSY FIELDS born 1763 would be 77)
Page 235
:LINE #8
:AND 8 LINES down the road IS
:Anderson FIELDS
:AND 5 more farms away is
::Clinton MANIS=-5=1 / 20-30=1
:Females= -5=1 / 20-30=1
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1840," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHYL-TXX : 24 August 2015), Seth Manis, Hawkins, Tennessee, United States; citing p. 235, NARA microfilm publication M704, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 526; FHL microfilm 24,546.

CHILDREN:
John Maner
Jacob Wilson
William (Billy) Mar.: Lydia
George
Jesse
Elizabeth
John
James
Tempa

Grandchildren not found/or linked to their parents.
Joseph T. son of William/Lydia

"There is a town called Manes in Wright County MO. named after a Seth Manes." "Manes takes its name from a Baptist minister of Richland, Missouri by the name of Seth Manes. A missionary church was established in Manes in 1893 and in 1894 the first church was built in Manes. This building was used until 1925 when the current Baptist church building was erected." (wikipedia-Manes, Missouri--this does not state WHICH Seth Manes it is named for)

Morticia has asked that his Title: Rev. be added, sorry I did know that but forgot to add it. Seth's g-g-grandson, my g-grampa Albert was also a Baptist Preacher.

sources: census records for the "Preacher"
and DAR Gene..
MANIS, SETH ------Ancestor #: A073377
Notice: DATA IN THE PENDING CORRECTIONS (WHY?)
Service: NORTH CAROLINA Rank: PRIVATE
Birth: 2- -1762 BEDFORD CO VIRGINIA
Death: ANTE 3- -1849 HAWKINS CO TENNESSEE
Pension Number: S2739
Service Source: *S2739
Service Description: 1) CAPT WILLIAMS, COL BUTLER

Created: 2013-02-07 10:58:30.0, Updated: 2013-02-07 10:58:30.0, By: 1) DATA IN PENDING CORRECTION FILE RE: MAIDEN NAME OF SON JACOB'S WIFE MARY

Created: 2013-02-07 10:58:30.0, Updated: 2013-02-07 10:58:30.0, By: 2) JANE. 02/2013

Residence --Created: 2002-11-13 11:04:44.997, Updated: 2013-04-02 09:12:35.0, By: 1) County: CUMBERLAND CO-ENL - State: NORTH CAROLINA

Spouse: PATSY FIELD

AND several family trees on Familysearch.org
they mostly agree with this.

Suggested edit: This is not a photo of Seth I. It is of Seth McCauley Manes (Seth II) and his brothers. The grandsons of Seth 1.
The original picture is found here with names http://sites.rootsweb.com/~mopulask/manes.htm

Gravesite Details

The "burial was the Old home place, North side of Clinch Mountain, 7 miles north of Rogersville, TN.=marker missing