Susan Maness (1763 - 1842) – Manis Cemetery –
Suggested By: Lanny Ross, 1 Jun 2022
Father -Empty --Richard Fields (1740-1780)
SURE WISH WE could add him, I used to have him but I was TOLD!
not to because it was not TRUE................https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Fields-3726
Disputed Origins: "A Cherokee woman, Susannah Emory, and Richard Fields were previously listed as the parents of Susannah Maness. Their actual daughter Susannah was born about 1780-- almost 20 years after Susannah Maness. The Cherokee Susannah married two white men, George Brewer and Thomas Foreman and was the mother of 15 children, born between 1800 and 1826.[1] [2] The Foreman family was removed to Indian Territory in 1838 over the Trail of Tears in a detachment led by Hair Conrad and Susannah's husband Thomas Foreman.
Susannah Fields Maness was a much older woman born almost 20 years before the birth of the daughter of Susannah and Richard, above. She appears to be the wife of Revolutionary War soldier Seth Manis, DAR Ancestor # A073377. Seth's pension application, filed from Tennessee, does not name a wife or children. DAR records list wife "Patsy" and several children, born in North Carolina between 1780 and 1800.
Because I have had a request from a couple of descendants that Gramma Patsy was born in Moore County, North Carolina I will change her state of birth from Virginia.
And, Susan can be short for Susannah, which looks like her mother's name also.
Susannah was our 5x great gramma...
As per several rootsweb.com TREES her parents were:
Richard Fields B: 1740 Cherokee Nation East, Bradley TN
D: 8 May 1827 Nacogdoches, TX
Susannah Emory B: 1745 Cherokee Nation East Nation, TN
Notice she went back to Cherokee Nation after her husband passed.
All the family trees say they were both Cherokee
From rootsweb.com TREE "John has cousins and kin TREE"
COPIED:
ID: 168232
Name: Susanna EMORY
Given Name: Susanna
Surname: EMORY
Sex: F
Birth: Abt 1749 in Cherokee Nation, East, Tennessee
Death: Y
_UID: 5C5CBB01D2D34759BE0E9573E1D9915F37DA
Change Date: 28 DEC 2009 at 22:09
Note:
NATI: 1/4 Cherokee; 3/4 Scottish Event: Clan Long Hair
More About SUSANNA EMORY:
Clan: Ani'-Gilâ'hi = Twisters, Braids, or Long Hair Clan (Mary Grant)
Starr's Notes: K131
Father: William EMORY b: Abt 1720 in Putney, Surrey, England
Mother: *Mary GRANT b: 1727 in Cherokee Nation, East, Tennessee
Marriage 1 Richard FIELDS b: 1732 in Bradley, Cherokee Nation, East, Tennessee
Married:
Change Date: 19 DEC 2009
Children:
Captian George FIELDS b: Abt 1770
'***********************************************************
MORE INFO
A "Letter written in 1920 by Seth's grandson, Samuel Jasper Manes, states that his grandmother's name was Patsy Fields. No record of this marriage was found in Moore County. Patsy was born in 1763. It is hard to set the date that Seth moved from Moore County, North Carolina to Hawkins County, Tenn. Jacob Wilson and William Seth's first and second sons, were born in Moore County."
"Excerpts from letter written by Samuel Jasper Manes to Jesse D Gustin in 1920. "Grandfather Seth Manes was in the Revolutionary War." "Grandfather Manes had 6 boys. His name was Seth.
Grandmothers name was Patsy Fields.
My father's name was Jacob, then William, John, George, James, and Jesse." "Fathers brothers, all but George, lived and died in Tenn. George got imminsley rich and died in Searcy County, Arkansas."
'--------------------------------------------------------
I have not been able to locate the marriage record yet but the familysearch tree says, "1780-1782 Knoxville, TN. USA"
So far I have only been able to pull up the 1840 census for Seth Maness living in Hawkins County TN.
If anyone finds additional info please let me know
and am curious was Susannah born on the Reservation, "White Mans farming section" or was she Indian?
She was Indian.. as per the rootsweb TREE above.
March 3,2015: have been told that the Richard Fields/ Susannah Emory-Martin are not the correct parents, according to their records. She has never heard of a Seth Maness Sr. So for now I will only make mention of the memorial #s until we can find further proof...Richard Fields #61974741/ Susannah #61972720..
Here is a 1790 census for
Name Susanah Fields
Event Type Census
Event Date 1790
Event Place Moore, North Carolina, United States
Page 163
FREE White MALES 16 years & forward= 0
FREE White MALES under 16 years=1
FREE White FEMALES incl. Head of Household=2
ALL OTHER FREE person=0
SLAVES= 0
THIS tells us that this Susannah Fields
was the Head of House, Widow or Abandoned by husband??
and she had 2 children living with her, 1 boy under 16
and 1 girl
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1790", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHK1-LM3 : 29 May 2015), Susanah Fields, 1790.
Suggested By: Lanny Ross, 1 Jun 2022
Father -Empty --Richard Fields (1740-1780)
SURE WISH WE could add him, I used to have him but I was TOLD!
not to because it was not TRUE................https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Fields-3726
Disputed Origins: "A Cherokee woman, Susannah Emory, and Richard Fields were previously listed as the parents of Susannah Maness. Their actual daughter Susannah was born about 1780-- almost 20 years after Susannah Maness. The Cherokee Susannah married two white men, George Brewer and Thomas Foreman and was the mother of 15 children, born between 1800 and 1826.[1] [2] The Foreman family was removed to Indian Territory in 1838 over the Trail of Tears in a detachment led by Hair Conrad and Susannah's husband Thomas Foreman.
Susannah Fields Maness was a much older woman born almost 20 years before the birth of the daughter of Susannah and Richard, above. She appears to be the wife of Revolutionary War soldier Seth Manis, DAR Ancestor # A073377. Seth's pension application, filed from Tennessee, does not name a wife or children. DAR records list wife "Patsy" and several children, born in North Carolina between 1780 and 1800.
Because I have had a request from a couple of descendants that Gramma Patsy was born in Moore County, North Carolina I will change her state of birth from Virginia.
And, Susan can be short for Susannah, which looks like her mother's name also.
Susannah was our 5x great gramma...
As per several rootsweb.com TREES her parents were:
Richard Fields B: 1740 Cherokee Nation East, Bradley TN
D: 8 May 1827 Nacogdoches, TX
Susannah Emory B: 1745 Cherokee Nation East Nation, TN
Notice she went back to Cherokee Nation after her husband passed.
All the family trees say they were both Cherokee
From rootsweb.com TREE "John has cousins and kin TREE"
COPIED:
ID: 168232
Name: Susanna EMORY
Given Name: Susanna
Surname: EMORY
Sex: F
Birth: Abt 1749 in Cherokee Nation, East, Tennessee
Death: Y
_UID: 5C5CBB01D2D34759BE0E9573E1D9915F37DA
Change Date: 28 DEC 2009 at 22:09
Note:
NATI: 1/4 Cherokee; 3/4 Scottish Event: Clan Long Hair
More About SUSANNA EMORY:
Clan: Ani'-Gilâ'hi = Twisters, Braids, or Long Hair Clan (Mary Grant)
Starr's Notes: K131
Father: William EMORY b: Abt 1720 in Putney, Surrey, England
Mother: *Mary GRANT b: 1727 in Cherokee Nation, East, Tennessee
Marriage 1 Richard FIELDS b: 1732 in Bradley, Cherokee Nation, East, Tennessee
Married:
Change Date: 19 DEC 2009
Children:
Captian George FIELDS b: Abt 1770
'***********************************************************
MORE INFO
A "Letter written in 1920 by Seth's grandson, Samuel Jasper Manes, states that his grandmother's name was Patsy Fields. No record of this marriage was found in Moore County. Patsy was born in 1763. It is hard to set the date that Seth moved from Moore County, North Carolina to Hawkins County, Tenn. Jacob Wilson and William Seth's first and second sons, were born in Moore County."
"Excerpts from letter written by Samuel Jasper Manes to Jesse D Gustin in 1920. "Grandfather Seth Manes was in the Revolutionary War." "Grandfather Manes had 6 boys. His name was Seth.
Grandmothers name was Patsy Fields.
My father's name was Jacob, then William, John, George, James, and Jesse." "Fathers brothers, all but George, lived and died in Tenn. George got imminsley rich and died in Searcy County, Arkansas."
'--------------------------------------------------------
I have not been able to locate the marriage record yet but the familysearch tree says, "1780-1782 Knoxville, TN. USA"
So far I have only been able to pull up the 1840 census for Seth Maness living in Hawkins County TN.
If anyone finds additional info please let me know
and am curious was Susannah born on the Reservation, "White Mans farming section" or was she Indian?
She was Indian.. as per the rootsweb TREE above.
March 3,2015: have been told that the Richard Fields/ Susannah Emory-Martin are not the correct parents, according to their records. She has never heard of a Seth Maness Sr. So for now I will only make mention of the memorial #s until we can find further proof...Richard Fields #61974741/ Susannah #61972720..
Here is a 1790 census for
Name Susanah Fields
Event Type Census
Event Date 1790
Event Place Moore, North Carolina, United States
Page 163
FREE White MALES 16 years & forward= 0
FREE White MALES under 16 years=1
FREE White FEMALES incl. Head of Household=2
ALL OTHER FREE person=0
SLAVES= 0
THIS tells us that this Susannah Fields
was the Head of House, Widow or Abandoned by husband??
and she had 2 children living with her, 1 boy under 16
and 1 girl
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1790", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHK1-LM3 : 29 May 2015), Susanah Fields, 1790.
Susan Maness (1763 - 1842) – Manis Cemetery –
Suggested By: Lanny Ross, 1 Jun 2022
Father -Empty --Richard Fields (1740-1780)
SURE WISH WE could add him, I used to have him but I was TOLD!
not to because it was not TRUE................https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Fields-3726
Disputed Origins: "A Cherokee woman, Susannah Emory, and Richard Fields were previously listed as the parents of Susannah Maness. Their actual daughter Susannah was born about 1780-- almost 20 years after Susannah Maness. The Cherokee Susannah married two white men, George Brewer and Thomas Foreman and was the mother of 15 children, born between 1800 and 1826.[1] [2] The Foreman family was removed to Indian Territory in 1838 over the Trail of Tears in a detachment led by Hair Conrad and Susannah's husband Thomas Foreman.
Susannah Fields Maness was a much older woman born almost 20 years before the birth of the daughter of Susannah and Richard, above. She appears to be the wife of Revolutionary War soldier Seth Manis, DAR Ancestor # A073377. Seth's pension application, filed from Tennessee, does not name a wife or children. DAR records list wife "Patsy" and several children, born in North Carolina between 1780 and 1800.
Because I have had a request from a couple of descendants that Gramma Patsy was born in Moore County, North Carolina I will change her state of birth from Virginia.
And, Susan can be short for Susannah, which looks like her mother's name also.
Susannah was our 5x great gramma...
As per several rootsweb.com TREES her parents were:
Richard Fields B: 1740 Cherokee Nation East, Bradley TN
D: 8 May 1827 Nacogdoches, TX
Susannah Emory B: 1745 Cherokee Nation East Nation, TN
Notice she went back to Cherokee Nation after her husband passed.
All the family trees say they were both Cherokee
From rootsweb.com TREE "John has cousins and kin TREE"
COPIED:
ID: 168232
Name: Susanna EMORY
Given Name: Susanna
Surname: EMORY
Sex: F
Birth: Abt 1749 in Cherokee Nation, East, Tennessee
Death: Y
_UID: 5C5CBB01D2D34759BE0E9573E1D9915F37DA
Change Date: 28 DEC 2009 at 22:09
Note:
NATI: 1/4 Cherokee; 3/4 Scottish Event: Clan Long Hair
More About SUSANNA EMORY:
Clan: Ani'-Gilâ'hi = Twisters, Braids, or Long Hair Clan (Mary Grant)
Starr's Notes: K131
Father: William EMORY b: Abt 1720 in Putney, Surrey, England
Mother: *Mary GRANT b: 1727 in Cherokee Nation, East, Tennessee
Marriage 1 Richard FIELDS b: 1732 in Bradley, Cherokee Nation, East, Tennessee
Married:
Change Date: 19 DEC 2009
Children:
Captian George FIELDS b: Abt 1770
'***********************************************************
MORE INFO
A "Letter written in 1920 by Seth's grandson, Samuel Jasper Manes, states that his grandmother's name was Patsy Fields. No record of this marriage was found in Moore County. Patsy was born in 1763. It is hard to set the date that Seth moved from Moore County, North Carolina to Hawkins County, Tenn. Jacob Wilson and William Seth's first and second sons, were born in Moore County."
"Excerpts from letter written by Samuel Jasper Manes to Jesse D Gustin in 1920. "Grandfather Seth Manes was in the Revolutionary War." "Grandfather Manes had 6 boys. His name was Seth.
Grandmothers name was Patsy Fields.
My father's name was Jacob, then William, John, George, James, and Jesse." "Fathers brothers, all but George, lived and died in Tenn. George got imminsley rich and died in Searcy County, Arkansas."
'--------------------------------------------------------
I have not been able to locate the marriage record yet but the familysearch tree says, "1780-1782 Knoxville, TN. USA"
So far I have only been able to pull up the 1840 census for Seth Maness living in Hawkins County TN.
If anyone finds additional info please let me know
and am curious was Susannah born on the Reservation, "White Mans farming section" or was she Indian?
She was Indian.. as per the rootsweb TREE above.
March 3,2015: have been told that the Richard Fields/ Susannah Emory-Martin are not the correct parents, according to their records. She has never heard of a Seth Maness Sr. So for now I will only make mention of the memorial #s until we can find further proof...Richard Fields #61974741/ Susannah #61972720..
Here is a 1790 census for
Name Susanah Fields
Event Type Census
Event Date 1790
Event Place Moore, North Carolina, United States
Page 163
FREE White MALES 16 years & forward= 0
FREE White MALES under 16 years=1
FREE White FEMALES incl. Head of Household=2
ALL OTHER FREE person=0
SLAVES= 0
THIS tells us that this Susannah Fields
was the Head of House, Widow or Abandoned by husband??
and she had 2 children living with her, 1 boy under 16
and 1 girl
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1790", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHK1-LM3 : 29 May 2015), Susanah Fields, 1790.
Suggested By: Lanny Ross, 1 Jun 2022
Father -Empty --Richard Fields (1740-1780)
SURE WISH WE could add him, I used to have him but I was TOLD!
not to because it was not TRUE................https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Fields-3726
Disputed Origins: "A Cherokee woman, Susannah Emory, and Richard Fields were previously listed as the parents of Susannah Maness. Their actual daughter Susannah was born about 1780-- almost 20 years after Susannah Maness. The Cherokee Susannah married two white men, George Brewer and Thomas Foreman and was the mother of 15 children, born between 1800 and 1826.[1] [2] The Foreman family was removed to Indian Territory in 1838 over the Trail of Tears in a detachment led by Hair Conrad and Susannah's husband Thomas Foreman.
Susannah Fields Maness was a much older woman born almost 20 years before the birth of the daughter of Susannah and Richard, above. She appears to be the wife of Revolutionary War soldier Seth Manis, DAR Ancestor # A073377. Seth's pension application, filed from Tennessee, does not name a wife or children. DAR records list wife "Patsy" and several children, born in North Carolina between 1780 and 1800.
Because I have had a request from a couple of descendants that Gramma Patsy was born in Moore County, North Carolina I will change her state of birth from Virginia.
And, Susan can be short for Susannah, which looks like her mother's name also.
Susannah was our 5x great gramma...
As per several rootsweb.com TREES her parents were:
Richard Fields B: 1740 Cherokee Nation East, Bradley TN
D: 8 May 1827 Nacogdoches, TX
Susannah Emory B: 1745 Cherokee Nation East Nation, TN
Notice she went back to Cherokee Nation after her husband passed.
All the family trees say they were both Cherokee
From rootsweb.com TREE "John has cousins and kin TREE"
COPIED:
ID: 168232
Name: Susanna EMORY
Given Name: Susanna
Surname: EMORY
Sex: F
Birth: Abt 1749 in Cherokee Nation, East, Tennessee
Death: Y
_UID: 5C5CBB01D2D34759BE0E9573E1D9915F37DA
Change Date: 28 DEC 2009 at 22:09
Note:
NATI: 1/4 Cherokee; 3/4 Scottish Event: Clan Long Hair
More About SUSANNA EMORY:
Clan: Ani'-Gilâ'hi = Twisters, Braids, or Long Hair Clan (Mary Grant)
Starr's Notes: K131
Father: William EMORY b: Abt 1720 in Putney, Surrey, England
Mother: *Mary GRANT b: 1727 in Cherokee Nation, East, Tennessee
Marriage 1 Richard FIELDS b: 1732 in Bradley, Cherokee Nation, East, Tennessee
Married:
Change Date: 19 DEC 2009
Children:
Captian George FIELDS b: Abt 1770
'***********************************************************
MORE INFO
A "Letter written in 1920 by Seth's grandson, Samuel Jasper Manes, states that his grandmother's name was Patsy Fields. No record of this marriage was found in Moore County. Patsy was born in 1763. It is hard to set the date that Seth moved from Moore County, North Carolina to Hawkins County, Tenn. Jacob Wilson and William Seth's first and second sons, were born in Moore County."
"Excerpts from letter written by Samuel Jasper Manes to Jesse D Gustin in 1920. "Grandfather Seth Manes was in the Revolutionary War." "Grandfather Manes had 6 boys. His name was Seth.
Grandmothers name was Patsy Fields.
My father's name was Jacob, then William, John, George, James, and Jesse." "Fathers brothers, all but George, lived and died in Tenn. George got imminsley rich and died in Searcy County, Arkansas."
'--------------------------------------------------------
I have not been able to locate the marriage record yet but the familysearch tree says, "1780-1782 Knoxville, TN. USA"
So far I have only been able to pull up the 1840 census for Seth Maness living in Hawkins County TN.
If anyone finds additional info please let me know
and am curious was Susannah born on the Reservation, "White Mans farming section" or was she Indian?
She was Indian.. as per the rootsweb TREE above.
March 3,2015: have been told that the Richard Fields/ Susannah Emory-Martin are not the correct parents, according to their records. She has never heard of a Seth Maness Sr. So for now I will only make mention of the memorial #s until we can find further proof...Richard Fields #61974741/ Susannah #61972720..
Here is a 1790 census for
Name Susanah Fields
Event Type Census
Event Date 1790
Event Place Moore, North Carolina, United States
Page 163
FREE White MALES 16 years & forward= 0
FREE White MALES under 16 years=1
FREE White FEMALES incl. Head of Household=2
ALL OTHER FREE person=0
SLAVES= 0
THIS tells us that this Susannah Fields
was the Head of House, Widow or Abandoned by husband??
and she had 2 children living with her, 1 boy under 16
and 1 girl
Citing this Record:
"United States Census, 1790", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHK1-LM3 : 29 May 2015), Susanah Fields, 1790.
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