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John “Indian John” Tidwell

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John “Indian John” Tidwell

Birth
Forsyth County, Georgia, USA
Death
12 Mar 1903 (aged 87)
Stilwell, Adair County, Oklahoma, USA
Burial
Stilwell, Adair County, Oklahoma, USA Add to Map
Memorial ID
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Cherokee Nation Citizen - Youngdeer/John Tidwell Card Number 5967 - Cherokee By Blood.
Contributor: Kat Twilley (51115593)

Burial: Unkn; no marker

Father: (Ahwi'Nita) YOUNG DEER b: 1790 in Cherokee Nation, Forsyth Co., Georgia
Mother: Winnifred "Winny" Marie TIDWELL b: 1799 in Forsyth Co., Georgia

Marriage 1: Elizabeth "Betsy" GRAVITT b: ABT 1816 in South Carolina
Married: ABT 1831 in , Hall Co., Georgia
Children:
1. Calite Winnie Tidwell b. 1832
2. Mansell D. Tidwell b. 1836 in GA d. 1916 AL m. Rachel Levell
3. Chinessa Jeanett Tidwell (Click on: Chinessa Genettie Tidwell Dudley.) b. 1838 m. David Dudley

Marriage 2: Lucretia THOMPSON
Married: 1841 in Cobb County, GA
Children:
1. Lodusky Ann TIDWELL (Click on: Lodusky Ann Tidwell Brown.) b: 11 MAY 1845 in Cobb County, GA m. John Washington Brown
2. Pleasant H. TIDWELL (Click on: Pleasant H. Tidwell.) b: 9 SEP 1843 m. Martha Carnes
3. Mary A. TIDWELL b: 1 MAR 1847 m. (1) White, William H, m. (2) Sheffield, Thomas H
4. Grace Aminda TIDWELL b: 22 JAN 1849 m. Samuel Hughes
5. Versony N. TIDWELL b: 20 SEP 1850 m. William Dunaway
6. John Granville TIDWELL (Click on: John Granville Tidwell.) b: 30 SEP 1853
7. Marney Clementine TIDWELL b: 18 OCT 1854 m. Thomas Sheffield
8. Saphrona Caroline TIDWELL b: 12 OCT 1856 m. Unkn Ledford
9. William E. TIDWELL b: 11 NOV 1858
10. Pennington Washington TIDWELL b: 3 FEB 1861
11. Martha L. TIDWELL b: 8 JUL 1863
12. Minor Loveless TIDWELL (Click on: Minor L. Tidwell.) b: 14 SEP 1865
13. Leroy Jefferson TIDWELL b: 11 APR 1868
14. Ada Tabitha TIDWELL b: 3 FEB 1871

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John/Indian John Youngdeer Tidwell became a blacksmith & lived in Paulding Co., GA. John was abt 8-12 years old when his father Young Deer died.

After his marriage to Betsy, he continued to live in Forsyth Co. for a number of years.

Sometime in 1835, he went to IT, but soon returned to GA to raise his family. In March of that year, Tidwell and Charles Vicery (1/4 Cherokee, son of Henry and Charlotte Vickery) had been charged by the solicitor with having an "affray" on public street in Cumming and fighting in a "war-like manner" in a public place in town. A grand jury hearing the evidence failed to indict the 2 young men.

*By 1840, the family had moved to Cobb Co., GA.

*He is listed on the 1850 Census: Cobb Co., GA, with his wife Cresa (short for Lucretia).

*After marrying Lucretia in 1842, he was living with his family in 1860 in Paulding Co., GA, where several children were born and married.

By his 2 wives he had 17 mixed-blood children.

*In 1888, he applied for Cherokee citizenship through the Ordinary in Paulding Co.; his statements were read before the commission at Tahlequah, and James Hendricks, his 1st coustin, gave testimony on 04 Sep to support his claim as a descendant of the Cherokee race. He made this statement about their family relationship: "His father and my mother were brother and sister. I have seen John Tidwell. He was at our house and some 2 weeks before we emigrated to this country. He was some taller than me. He was older than me.

The father of John Tidwell was Ah-wee-nee-tah sinnifying Young Deer. I was bout 12 years old at the time of our emigration in 1932."

*John & Lucretia moved to IT in 1889 and settled at Stilwell in the Goingsnake Dist., CN, IT. On 24 Jul 1900, he applied for enrollment as a Cherokee by blood before the Dawes Commission to the 5 Civilized Tribes. He told the commission that he was 85 yrs old, born in GA, and was a Cherokee by blood, a halbreed Indian. Two years later, he was placed on the "Final Cherokee Roll by Blood."[Source: Don Shadburn]

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Cherokee Nation Citizen - Youngdeer/John Tidwell Card Number 5967 - Cherokee By Blood.
Contributor: Kat Twilley (51115593)

Burial: Unkn; no marker

Father: (Ahwi'Nita) YOUNG DEER b: 1790 in Cherokee Nation, Forsyth Co., Georgia
Mother: Winnifred "Winny" Marie TIDWELL b: 1799 in Forsyth Co., Georgia

Marriage 1: Elizabeth "Betsy" GRAVITT b: ABT 1816 in South Carolina
Married: ABT 1831 in , Hall Co., Georgia
Children:
1. Calite Winnie Tidwell b. 1832
2. Mansell D. Tidwell b. 1836 in GA d. 1916 AL m. Rachel Levell
3. Chinessa Jeanett Tidwell (Click on: Chinessa Genettie Tidwell Dudley.) b. 1838 m. David Dudley

Marriage 2: Lucretia THOMPSON
Married: 1841 in Cobb County, GA
Children:
1. Lodusky Ann TIDWELL (Click on: Lodusky Ann Tidwell Brown.) b: 11 MAY 1845 in Cobb County, GA m. John Washington Brown
2. Pleasant H. TIDWELL (Click on: Pleasant H. Tidwell.) b: 9 SEP 1843 m. Martha Carnes
3. Mary A. TIDWELL b: 1 MAR 1847 m. (1) White, William H, m. (2) Sheffield, Thomas H
4. Grace Aminda TIDWELL b: 22 JAN 1849 m. Samuel Hughes
5. Versony N. TIDWELL b: 20 SEP 1850 m. William Dunaway
6. John Granville TIDWELL (Click on: John Granville Tidwell.) b: 30 SEP 1853
7. Marney Clementine TIDWELL b: 18 OCT 1854 m. Thomas Sheffield
8. Saphrona Caroline TIDWELL b: 12 OCT 1856 m. Unkn Ledford
9. William E. TIDWELL b: 11 NOV 1858
10. Pennington Washington TIDWELL b: 3 FEB 1861
11. Martha L. TIDWELL b: 8 JUL 1863
12. Minor Loveless TIDWELL (Click on: Minor L. Tidwell.) b: 14 SEP 1865
13. Leroy Jefferson TIDWELL b: 11 APR 1868
14. Ada Tabitha TIDWELL b: 3 FEB 1871

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John/Indian John Youngdeer Tidwell became a blacksmith & lived in Paulding Co., GA. John was abt 8-12 years old when his father Young Deer died.

After his marriage to Betsy, he continued to live in Forsyth Co. for a number of years.

Sometime in 1835, he went to IT, but soon returned to GA to raise his family. In March of that year, Tidwell and Charles Vicery (1/4 Cherokee, son of Henry and Charlotte Vickery) had been charged by the solicitor with having an "affray" on public street in Cumming and fighting in a "war-like manner" in a public place in town. A grand jury hearing the evidence failed to indict the 2 young men.

*By 1840, the family had moved to Cobb Co., GA.

*He is listed on the 1850 Census: Cobb Co., GA, with his wife Cresa (short for Lucretia).

*After marrying Lucretia in 1842, he was living with his family in 1860 in Paulding Co., GA, where several children were born and married.

By his 2 wives he had 17 mixed-blood children.

*In 1888, he applied for Cherokee citizenship through the Ordinary in Paulding Co.; his statements were read before the commission at Tahlequah, and James Hendricks, his 1st coustin, gave testimony on 04 Sep to support his claim as a descendant of the Cherokee race. He made this statement about their family relationship: "His father and my mother were brother and sister. I have seen John Tidwell. He was at our house and some 2 weeks before we emigrated to this country. He was some taller than me. He was older than me.

The father of John Tidwell was Ah-wee-nee-tah sinnifying Young Deer. I was bout 12 years old at the time of our emigration in 1932."

*John & Lucretia moved to IT in 1889 and settled at Stilwell in the Goingsnake Dist., CN, IT. On 24 Jul 1900, he applied for enrollment as a Cherokee by blood before the Dawes Commission to the 5 Civilized Tribes. He told the commission that he was 85 yrs old, born in GA, and was a Cherokee by blood, a halbreed Indian. Two years later, he was placed on the "Final Cherokee Roll by Blood."[Source: Don Shadburn]

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  • Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/104560969/john-tidwell: accessed ), memorial page for John “Indian John” Tidwell (22 Jul 1815–12 Mar 1903), Find a Grave Memorial ID 104560969, citing Stilwell Cemetery, Stilwell, Adair County, Oklahoma, USA; Maintained by HGWells (contributor 49850702).