5. John Plott, Jr. (Not Jack or Jackson, see explanation below.)
Born in Cabarrus County, NC c January 20, 1812 From Grace Plott and James Iverson Plott’s - Plott History Book.
Died in Cabarrus County, NC c March 23, 1871 John Plott Family Bible Records, which was microfilmed in the North Carolina Archives-North Carolina Digital Collection.
Last Will and Testament & Estate Settlement Papers were filed in North Carolina Archives.
No tombstone record.
A. Married Elizabeth Slough on April 8, 1835, in Cabarrus County, NC Marriage records; however, April 4, 1835 John Plott Family Bible.
Bondsman: D. M. Walker
B. Emeline Walter-Propst (previous husband was Wilson Propst) on May 1, 1860, Cabarrus County, NC Marriage records; however, May 3, 1860 John Plott Family Bible.
Bondsman: John A. Long
Witness: N. Slough
I want to pause here and discuss the use of the name “John Jack or John Jackson” for John Plott, Jr. and/or John Plott Sr. I have reviewed marriage records, Last Will and Testaments, Estate Settlement Papers, Plott Family Bible, newspaper clippings, and Cabarrus County deeds for John Jr. and John Sr. I find NO legal instance that either personally used “John Jack or John Jackson” for his name. Now, I know that folks will point to the death certificates for John, Jr’s. sons, Chalmer and William M., which “Jackson Plott” was written for “Name of Father”. The “Informant Name” on Chalmer’s death certificate was Mrs. C. L. Mossman (Clarence L. Mossman). Mrs. Mossman was Chalmer’s daughter Laura Pauline. The “Informant Name” on William's death certificate was R. J. Walters (Riley James Walters), who was the husband of Florence Virginia, a daughter of William M. The problem with using the death certificates as proof of John Jr. and/or John Sr. names with the name Jack or Jackson are as follows:
a. First, neither John Jr. and/or John Sr. ever used for legal documentation Jack, Jackson or the initial “J”.
b. Second, the Informants for both death certificates used different names for Chalmer and William M’s “Name of Mother”, who was Elizabeth Stough/Slough. Laura Pauline used the name of Sarah for Elizabeth. Mr. Walters used the nickname Betsy for Elizabeth.
c. Third, Chalmer personally documents his father as John Plott and his mother as Elizabeth Plott on his Cabarrus County, North Carolina marriage license to Mary A. Stough, “...the 20 day of October A.D., 1867…”
d. Forth, the North Carolina, Marriage Records, 1741-2011 for William M Plott reports, “son of John & Elizabeth” with his marriage to Mary E. Dove, “14 Dec. 1868 m. 17 Dec. 1868 by Alexander Blackwelder, J.P. (w) David Winecoff, Reg.”
e. Fifth, the marriage record for Elizabeth Plott, Chalmer and William’s sister, reads as follows, “Daughter of John Plott Dead and Elizabeth Plott, dead . . . at Office in Concord, the 29th day of September, 1872…”
f. Sixth, marriage record for Mattie A. Plott, Chalmer and William’s half-sister, reads as follows, “...Daughter of Jno/John Plott and Emeline Plott...” January 7, 1888.
Historian Jerry Taylor advised, “Jack and Jackie were common nicknames for John just as Mollie was for Mary and Sallie for Sarah and Patsy for Martha etc etc. They were "bad" about nicknaming back then.” Jerry Taylor further comments, “But that doesn't mean we should ever substitute nicknames for actual legal names!” and, “My own grandfather "messed up" his mother's parents’ names on the death certificate.”
I, the author of this report, would minimally classify the use of Jackson as a nickname for John Jr. and not a legal name for John Jr.
If anyone has ‘documented proof’ that John Jr. ‘personally’ used “Jack, Jackson or the letter J”, I ask that they release and share the information. I shall not argue with you, if you have a strong opinion about John’s name. My research style is to report what the legal documents disclosed.
I am standing by James Iverson Plott’s list of his first level aunts and uncles. John (Jr.) and Jack were two individual brothers. John was born in 1812 and married Elizabeth Stough. Jack was born in 1820 and disappears for a reason we as researchers need to do our investigation and find him.
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Born in Cabarrus County, NC c January 20, 1812 From Grace Plott and James Iverson Plott’s - Plott History Book.
Died in Cabarrus County, NC c March 23, 1871 John Plott Family Bible Records, which was microfilmed in the North Carolina Archives-North Carolina Digital Collection.
Last Will and Testament & Estate Settlement Papers were filed in North Carolina Archives.
No tombstone record.
A. Married Elizabeth Slough on April 8, 1835, in Cabarrus County, NC Marriage records; however, April 4, 1835 John Plott Family Bible.
Bondsman: D. M. Walker
B. Emeline Walter-Propst (previous husband was Wilson Propst) on May 1, 1860, Cabarrus County, NC Marriage records; however, May 3, 1860 John Plott Family Bible.
Bondsman: John A. Long
Witness: N. Slough
I want to pause here and discuss the use of the name “John Jack or John Jackson” for John Plott, Jr. and/or John Plott Sr. I have reviewed marriage records, Last Will and Testaments, Estate Settlement Papers, Plott Family Bible, newspaper clippings, and Cabarrus County deeds for John Jr. and John Sr. I find NO legal instance that either personally used “John Jack or John Jackson” for his name. Now, I know that folks will point to the death certificates for John, Jr’s. sons, Chalmer and William M., which “Jackson Plott” was written for “Name of Father”. The “Informant Name” on Chalmer’s death certificate was Mrs. C. L. Mossman (Clarence L. Mossman). Mrs. Mossman was Chalmer’s daughter Laura Pauline. The “Informant Name” on William's death certificate was R. J. Walters (Riley James Walters), who was the husband of Florence Virginia, a daughter of William M. The problem with using the death certificates as proof of John Jr. and/or John Sr. names with the name Jack or Jackson are as follows:
a. First, neither John Jr. and/or John Sr. ever used for legal documentation Jack, Jackson or the initial “J”.
b. Second, the Informants for both death certificates used different names for Chalmer and William M’s “Name of Mother”, who was Elizabeth Stough/Slough. Laura Pauline used the name of Sarah for Elizabeth. Mr. Walters used the nickname Betsy for Elizabeth.
c. Third, Chalmer personally documents his father as John Plott and his mother as Elizabeth Plott on his Cabarrus County, North Carolina marriage license to Mary A. Stough, “...the 20 day of October A.D., 1867…”
d. Forth, the North Carolina, Marriage Records, 1741-2011 for William M Plott reports, “son of John & Elizabeth” with his marriage to Mary E. Dove, “14 Dec. 1868 m. 17 Dec. 1868 by Alexander Blackwelder, J.P. (w) David Winecoff, Reg.”
e. Fifth, the marriage record for Elizabeth Plott, Chalmer and William’s sister, reads as follows, “Daughter of John Plott Dead and Elizabeth Plott, dead . . . at Office in Concord, the 29th day of September, 1872…”
f. Sixth, marriage record for Mattie A. Plott, Chalmer and William’s half-sister, reads as follows, “...Daughter of Jno/John Plott and Emeline Plott...” January 7, 1888.
Historian Jerry Taylor advised, “Jack and Jackie were common nicknames for John just as Mollie was for Mary and Sallie for Sarah and Patsy for Martha etc etc. They were "bad" about nicknaming back then.” Jerry Taylor further comments, “But that doesn't mean we should ever substitute nicknames for actual legal names!” and, “My own grandfather "messed up" his mother's parents’ names on the death certificate.”
I, the author of this report, would minimally classify the use of Jackson as a nickname for John Jr. and not a legal name for John Jr.
If anyone has ‘documented proof’ that John Jr. ‘personally’ used “Jack, Jackson or the letter J”, I ask that they release and share the information. I shall not argue with you, if you have a strong opinion about John’s name. My research style is to report what the legal documents disclosed.
I am standing by James Iverson Plott’s list of his first level aunts and uncles. John (Jr.) and Jack were two individual brothers. John was born in 1812 and married Elizabeth Stough. Jack was born in 1820 and disappears for a reason we as researchers need to do our investigation and find him.
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5. John Plott, Jr. (Not Jack or Jackson, see explanation below.)
Born in Cabarrus County, NC c January 20, 1812 From Grace Plott and James Iverson Plott’s - Plott History Book.
Died in Cabarrus County, NC c March 23, 1871 John Plott Family Bible Records, which was microfilmed in the North Carolina Archives-North Carolina Digital Collection.
Last Will and Testament & Estate Settlement Papers were filed in North Carolina Archives.
No tombstone record.
A. Married Elizabeth Slough on April 8, 1835, in Cabarrus County, NC Marriage records; however, April 4, 1835 John Plott Family Bible.
Bondsman: D. M. Walker
B. Emeline Walter-Propst (previous husband was Wilson Propst) on May 1, 1860, Cabarrus County, NC Marriage records; however, May 3, 1860 John Plott Family Bible.
Bondsman: John A. Long
Witness: N. Slough
I want to pause here and discuss the use of the name “John Jack or John Jackson” for John Plott, Jr. and/or John Plott Sr. I have reviewed marriage records, Last Will and Testaments, Estate Settlement Papers, Plott Family Bible, newspaper clippings, and Cabarrus County deeds for John Jr. and John Sr. I find NO legal instance that either personally used “John Jack or John Jackson” for his name. Now, I know that folks will point to the death certificates for John, Jr’s. sons, Chalmer and William M., which “Jackson Plott” was written for “Name of Father”. The “Informant Name” on Chalmer’s death certificate was Mrs. C. L. Mossman (Clarence L. Mossman). Mrs. Mossman was Chalmer’s daughter Laura Pauline. The “Informant Name” on William's death certificate was R. J. Walters (Riley James Walters), who was the husband of Florence Virginia, a daughter of William M. The problem with using the death certificates as proof of John Jr. and/or John Sr. names with the name Jack or Jackson are as follows:
a. First, neither John Jr. and/or John Sr. ever used for legal documentation Jack, Jackson or the initial “J”.
b. Second, the Informants for both death certificates used different names for Chalmer and William M’s “Name of Mother”, who was Elizabeth Stough/Slough. Laura Pauline used the name of Sarah for Elizabeth. Mr. Walters used the nickname Betsy for Elizabeth.
c. Third, Chalmer personally documents his father as John Plott and his mother as Elizabeth Plott on his Cabarrus County, North Carolina marriage license to Mary A. Stough, “...the 20 day of October A.D., 1867…”
d. Forth, the North Carolina, Marriage Records, 1741-2011 for William M Plott reports, “son of John & Elizabeth” with his marriage to Mary E. Dove, “14 Dec. 1868 m. 17 Dec. 1868 by Alexander Blackwelder, J.P. (w) David Winecoff, Reg.”
e. Fifth, the marriage record for Elizabeth Plott, Chalmer and William’s sister, reads as follows, “Daughter of John Plott Dead and Elizabeth Plott, dead . . . at Office in Concord, the 29th day of September, 1872…”
f. Sixth, marriage record for Mattie A. Plott, Chalmer and William’s half-sister, reads as follows, “...Daughter of Jno/John Plott and Emeline Plott...” January 7, 1888.
Historian Jerry Taylor advised, “Jack and Jackie were common nicknames for John just as Mollie was for Mary and Sallie for Sarah and Patsy for Martha etc etc. They were "bad" about nicknaming back then.” Jerry Taylor further comments, “But that doesn't mean we should ever substitute nicknames for actual legal names!” and, “My own grandfather "messed up" his mother's parents’ names on the death certificate.”
I, the author of this report, would minimally classify the use of Jackson as a nickname for John Jr. and not a legal name for John Jr.
If anyone has ‘documented proof’ that John Jr. ‘personally’ used “Jack, Jackson or the letter J”, I ask that they release and share the information. I shall not argue with you, if you have a strong opinion about John’s name. My research style is to report what the legal documents disclosed.
I am standing by James Iverson Plott’s list of his first level aunts and uncles. John (Jr.) and Jack were two individual brothers. John was born in 1812 and married Elizabeth Stough. Jack was born in 1820 and disappears for a reason we as researchers need to do our investigation and find him.
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Born in Cabarrus County, NC c January 20, 1812 From Grace Plott and James Iverson Plott’s - Plott History Book.
Died in Cabarrus County, NC c March 23, 1871 John Plott Family Bible Records, which was microfilmed in the North Carolina Archives-North Carolina Digital Collection.
Last Will and Testament & Estate Settlement Papers were filed in North Carolina Archives.
No tombstone record.
A. Married Elizabeth Slough on April 8, 1835, in Cabarrus County, NC Marriage records; however, April 4, 1835 John Plott Family Bible.
Bondsman: D. M. Walker
B. Emeline Walter-Propst (previous husband was Wilson Propst) on May 1, 1860, Cabarrus County, NC Marriage records; however, May 3, 1860 John Plott Family Bible.
Bondsman: John A. Long
Witness: N. Slough
I want to pause here and discuss the use of the name “John Jack or John Jackson” for John Plott, Jr. and/or John Plott Sr. I have reviewed marriage records, Last Will and Testaments, Estate Settlement Papers, Plott Family Bible, newspaper clippings, and Cabarrus County deeds for John Jr. and John Sr. I find NO legal instance that either personally used “John Jack or John Jackson” for his name. Now, I know that folks will point to the death certificates for John, Jr’s. sons, Chalmer and William M., which “Jackson Plott” was written for “Name of Father”. The “Informant Name” on Chalmer’s death certificate was Mrs. C. L. Mossman (Clarence L. Mossman). Mrs. Mossman was Chalmer’s daughter Laura Pauline. The “Informant Name” on William's death certificate was R. J. Walters (Riley James Walters), who was the husband of Florence Virginia, a daughter of William M. The problem with using the death certificates as proof of John Jr. and/or John Sr. names with the name Jack or Jackson are as follows:
a. First, neither John Jr. and/or John Sr. ever used for legal documentation Jack, Jackson or the initial “J”.
b. Second, the Informants for both death certificates used different names for Chalmer and William M’s “Name of Mother”, who was Elizabeth Stough/Slough. Laura Pauline used the name of Sarah for Elizabeth. Mr. Walters used the nickname Betsy for Elizabeth.
c. Third, Chalmer personally documents his father as John Plott and his mother as Elizabeth Plott on his Cabarrus County, North Carolina marriage license to Mary A. Stough, “...the 20 day of October A.D., 1867…”
d. Forth, the North Carolina, Marriage Records, 1741-2011 for William M Plott reports, “son of John & Elizabeth” with his marriage to Mary E. Dove, “14 Dec. 1868 m. 17 Dec. 1868 by Alexander Blackwelder, J.P. (w) David Winecoff, Reg.”
e. Fifth, the marriage record for Elizabeth Plott, Chalmer and William’s sister, reads as follows, “Daughter of John Plott Dead and Elizabeth Plott, dead . . . at Office in Concord, the 29th day of September, 1872…”
f. Sixth, marriage record for Mattie A. Plott, Chalmer and William’s half-sister, reads as follows, “...Daughter of Jno/John Plott and Emeline Plott...” January 7, 1888.
Historian Jerry Taylor advised, “Jack and Jackie were common nicknames for John just as Mollie was for Mary and Sallie for Sarah and Patsy for Martha etc etc. They were "bad" about nicknaming back then.” Jerry Taylor further comments, “But that doesn't mean we should ever substitute nicknames for actual legal names!” and, “My own grandfather "messed up" his mother's parents’ names on the death certificate.”
I, the author of this report, would minimally classify the use of Jackson as a nickname for John Jr. and not a legal name for John Jr.
If anyone has ‘documented proof’ that John Jr. ‘personally’ used “Jack, Jackson or the letter J”, I ask that they release and share the information. I shall not argue with you, if you have a strong opinion about John’s name. My research style is to report what the legal documents disclosed.
I am standing by James Iverson Plott’s list of his first level aunts and uncles. John (Jr.) and Jack were two individual brothers. John was born in 1812 and married Elizabeth Stough. Jack was born in 1820 and disappears for a reason we as researchers need to do our investigation and find him.
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